The Three-'Heat' With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Michael Mann
November 2, 2021 · Heat (1995) · Action · Crime · Drama · 1:35:47 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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Most Rewatchable Scene
Bill SimmonsLists multiple rewatchable scenes including first robbery, Big Boys diner eating, Neil meeting first time, Neil's gang debates heist, diner scene, bank robbery, Vincent's crew gets caught, Neil kills Wayne Grow. Focuses discussion on Big Boys diner scene where Wayne Grow escapes▶ 36:02
Chris RyanFocuses on the Neil and Edie first meeting scene, particularly praising Amy Brenneman's facial expression when Neil scoots over one seat, describing it as 'so perfect' in conveying multiple emotions without dialogue▶ 40:02
Michael MannDiscusses the Big Boys diner scene in detail, emphasizing how it establishes the crew as 'terminal' and 'serious heavy duty crew' willing to kill without hesitation. Also discusses Neil and Edie's first meeting scene extensively▶ 37:17
Casting What-Ifs
Bill SimmonsKeanu Reeves — Goes through various casting rumors: Keanu Reeves for Chris (debunked), Michael Madsen for Michael (debunked), Ted Levine switching roles (likely false), James Caan lamenting not being in Heat▶ 1:07:52
Michael MannMichael Madsen — Debunks multiple casting rumors - confirms Val Kilmer was always cast as Chris, Michael Madsen was only considered among many actors, doesn't recall Ted Levine role switching, and says James Caan was never really an option despite their friendship▶ 1:08:19
Joey Pants Award
Bill SimmonsDiscusses multiple character actors from the film including Tom Noonan, Brian Libby, Ted Levine, and Wes Studi, but doesn't pick a specific winner▶ 1:10:21
Michael MannTom Noonan — Focuses on Tom Noonan as Kelso, praising his authenticity and noting their previous collaboration in Manhunter▶ 1:10:47
Overacting Award
Bill SimmonsAl Pacino — Agrees with Pacino/Vincent Hanna pick and explains the category is for when actors 'dial it up' even if done intentionally▶ 1:12:15
Chris RyanAl Pacino — Al Pacino as Vincent Hanna - acknowledges he could run through any number of Vincent Hanna moments but defends that Pacino isn't really overacting, just dialing it up for a reason▶ 1:12:18
Apex Mountain
Michael MannHeat — Multiple moments in Heat where everything came together with harmony, plus scenes in Ali with Michael T. Williamson as Don King▶ 1:20:24
Picking Nits
Bill SimmonsNeil and crew going to fancy dinner right after big heist - why would disciplined Neil want to be seen with crew in public so soon after?▶ 1:22:52
Bill SimmonsCops not researching the random guy who stares at Ashley Jenner on balcony for 10 seconds then drives off▶ 1:25:40
Chris RyanDoes Mann cheat LA traffic/geography - like Neil driving past refineries when heading to Hollywood hills?▶ 1:21:44
Chris RyanWhat does Chris say to guys on basketball court - 'anywhere to rent?' or 'buy some bread?'▶ 1:24:44
Probably Unanswerable Questions
Bill SimmonsHeat 2 sequel concept: Val Kilmer's son Dominic gets out of prison at age 23, seeks revenge against Neil's previously unknown son▶ 1:31:54
Michael MannHeat novel that spans 1988-1998, serving as both prequel and sequel to the movie▶ 1:31:38
Who Won the Movie
Bill SimmonsMichael Mann — Michael Mann - described as an artist movie from beginning to end, culmination of a 15 year journey▶ 1:32:15
Chris RyanMichael Mann — Michael Mann - agreed with SPEAKER_01's assessment from previous episode▶ 1:32:15
Movies Referenced (18)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| About Time (2013) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Michael Mann, Chris Ryan | ▶ 14:31 |
| Miami Vice (2006) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:32:25 |
| Fargo (1996) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:06:10 |
| Predators (2010) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Michael Mann | ▶ 53:05 |
| Before We Go (2014) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:34:28 |
| Bright (2017) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Michael Mann | ▶ 19:24 |
| Casino (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 28:59 |
| Dead Man (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 35:14 |
| Identity (2003) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Michael Mann | ▶ 1:16:33 |
| Lincoln (2012) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Michael Mann | ▶ 4:30 |
| Prey (2022) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 2:19 |
| Public Enemies (2009) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Michael Mann | ▶ 1:23:33 |
Directors Referenced (3)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Walter Hill | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Michael Mann, Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | 48 Hrs., Aliens | ▶ 7:40 |
| Art Linson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Michael Mann | Into the Wild, Fight Club, The Untouchables | ▶ 8:37 |
| Elliot Goldenthal | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Michael Mann | ▶ 1:05:41 |
Actors Referenced (39)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Al Pacino | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 30 | Michael Mann, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather | ▶ 2:42 |
| Val Kilmer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 15 | Michael Mann, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | The Doors, The Saint, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang | ▶ 2:42 |
| Robert De Niro | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 12 | Bill Simmons, Michael Mann | Cape Fear, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver | ▶ 2:42 |
| Vincent Hanna | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 9 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Michael Mann | ▶ 14:47 | |
| Tom Noonan | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Michael Mann, Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:10:21 | |
| James Caan | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Michael Mann, Chris Ryan | Thief, Rollerball, Misery | ▶ 39:20 |
| Kevin Gage | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Michael Mann, Bill Simmons | Heat, Con Air | ▶ 38:09 |
| Ted Levine | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Michael Mann | The Silence of the Lambs, Shutter Island, Heat | ▶ 1:08:49 |
| Kate Winslet | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Michael Mann, Bill Simmons | Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Revolutionary Road, Titanic | ▶ 45:05 |
| Miguel Pinero | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Michael Mann | ▶ 1:33:27 | |
| Will Smith | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Michael Mann | Men in Black, I Am Legend | ▶ 38:15 |
| Amy Brenneman | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | Heat | ▶ 40:06 |
Writers Referenced (1)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Attica Locke | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Michael Mann | ▶ 1:33:36 |