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‘Before Sunset’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin

February 4, 2025 · Before Sunset (2004) · Drama · Romance · 1:46:39 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsDiscusses the idealism vs experience themes and calls it his second favorite movie sequel ever, but doesn't specify a most rewatchable scene▶ 19:48
Chris RyanReflects on character development between the films and how they change each other, but doesn't identify a specific most rewatchable scene▶ 20:31
Mallory RubinThe car scene where they're looking at each other and looking away, he tries to touch her hair but can't, then she reaches to cup the back of his head but can't▶ 17:32
Sean FennesseyDiscusses the character dynamics and seesaw experience between Jesse and Celine but doesn't specify a particular scene as most rewatchable▶ 18:36

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsThe divorce quote 'I would suffer all the torture to be there for all the minutes of his life' and the cat's performance despite not liking cats▶ 58:24
Chris RyanThe moment when Delpy's on the boat on the Seine and the wind blows her blouse up - 'the hottest anyone's ever looked'▶ 57:50
Mallory RubinThe focus on intimate body parts in their dialogue - touching ankles, scars, the red in his beard - these little pieces of each other▶ 58:11
Sean FennesseyThe primacy of bookstores and international book tours - these weren't common in 2004▶ 58:56

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsShe didn't go the extra mile to find him - by 2004 you could hunt someone down if it was true love▶ 1:05:31
Chris RyanThey could have done a slightly better job of trying to find each other - the lack of effort to reconnect after their missed connection▶ 1:05:01
Mallory RubinPointed out she didn't know his last name and questioned how many Jesses there are in Texas, suggesting the search would have been difficult▶ 1:05:59
Sean FennesseyDefended her position, noting she was busy and all-consumed, living in New York for four years▶ 1:05:51

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsWanting Delpy to take a couple more puffs from the cigarette - she takes one and then doesn't really smoke it▶ 1:06:08
Mallory RubinThe part where Jesse's daughter reminds him of the girl he loses his virginity to is a little weird and odd▶ 1:07:51
Sean FennesseyJesse's second novel idea is not good - it was like a bad podcast pitch▶ 1:06:28

Picking Nits

Bill SimmonsJesse volunteering his second novel idea to strangers for workshopping - if you have an idea, the last thing you want to do is ask others what they think because they could steal it▶ 1:08:58
Chris RyanJesse fucks over his wife who's home with their five-year-old waiting for him to return from his book tour, and Celine fucks over her war photojournalist boyfriend who's probably in a war zone▶ 1:09:34
Mallory RubinThe movie makes you complicit in rooting for them to commit adultery - questioning whether it's okay to cheat on your spouse to find your first love again▶ 1:11:33
Sean FennesseyBoth things are true - you want to see them together but Jesse is clearly destroying his son Henry's life and psyche for the rest of his life▶ 1:11:41

Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Mallory RubinCeline is a terrible cat mom for depositing her cat on the mean streets of Paris every morning to fend for himself▶ 1:11:52
Sean FennesseyThe car ride scene is one of the most electrifying scenes of the 2000s, on par with the truck flip in Dark Knight and the briefcase scene in Collateral▶ 1:13:06

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Chris RyanIs Philippe paid either way or is his job to get Jesse to the airport, and is he assassinated right after the fade out▶ 1:14:43
Sean FennesseyDoes Philippe understand anything Jesse says▶ 1:14:38

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsMentions Nina Simone collection recorded June 16th 1968 and says 'apex mountain hawk just' but statement is incomplete▶ 1:17:37

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsMovie gets Academy Award nomination; one continuity error where extra in red shirt disappears between camera angles during walk scene▶ 1:18:13
Chris RyanJogger in park scene wears Horace Pinker t-shirt (early 90s Arizona pop punk band); final scene was written at 3am the night before filming; 47-minute walk shown as 8 minutes in movie▶ 1:17:46
Mallory RubinCat's name 'Che' means 'hope' in Argentinian▶ 1:26:06
Sean FennesseyMovie is supposed to be near real-time, approximately 78-80 minutes with some cutting between cafe scenes▶ 1:19:37

Sequel/Prequel/Limited Series/Remake

Bill SimmonsThis became a trilogy▶ 1:27:07

Is This Movie Better With

Bill SimmonsCris CollinsworthLists multiple utility players including Wayne Jenkins, Tony Romo, Chris Collinsworth, and others; suggests Collinsworth doing sports commentary on Celine's waltz performance▶ 1:27:13
Chris RyanWayne Jenkins - does extended impression of Jenkins commenting on Jesse's auto-fiction writing and telling him to get back to his wife▶ 1:27:26
Mallory RubinJulie DelpyJulie Delpy - argues she gets it for this movie in a split where Delpy gets Sunset, Hawke gets Midnight, and Linklater gets Sunrise▶ 1:27:37

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsMemories are a wonderful thing if you don't have to deal with the past▶ 1:39:05
Chris RyanSometimes you gotta miss that plane▶ 1:39:05

Best Double Feature

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsSuggests the movie hinges on the waltz scene being good, but acknowledges it's tough to pick and almost can't choose between them▶ 1:39:47
Chris RyanEthan HawkeInitially suggests Hawke won the first movie and Delpy this one, but then says he feels the opposite - watching Hawke through Delpy's eyes▶ 1:39:21
Sean FennesseyJulie DelpyJulie Delpy wins because there's way more pain in this movie▶ 1:39:32

Movies Referenced (36)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Before Sunrise (1995)IMDb ↗Lb ↗15Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Mallory Rubin▶ 2:11
Before Midnight (2013)IMDb ↗Lb ↗12Mallory Rubin, Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 9:41
Sideways (2004)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 25:49
Casablanca (1942)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Sean Fennessey▶ 1:19:08
Finding Neverland (2004)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 25:46
Million Dollar Baby (2004)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 25:45
Nope (2022)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 1:18:20
The Aviator (2004)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 25:46
About Time (2013)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Mallory Rubin▶ 54:43
Fargo (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:03:07
Jackie Brown (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 23:03
Sunshine (2007)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 26:27

Directors Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Richard LinklaterIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanBefore Midnight▶ 12:40
Ben LimbergIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Mallory Rubin▶ 57:33
Paul BellanyIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Stardust▶ 0:05

Actors Referenced (11)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Julie DelpyIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris RyanBefore Sunrise▶ 6:31
Crazy TownIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Something's Gotta Give▶ 0:00
Ethan HawkeIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanTraining Day, Before Sunrise, Before Midnight▶ 4:05
LeBron JamesIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 35:49
Luke WilsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Mallory RubinOld School, The Royal Tenenbaums▶ 18:05
Jenna OrtegaIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:23:48
Jennifer AnistonIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsWe're the Millers▶ 1:23:25
Jennifer JonesIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean Fennessey▶ 1:24:04
Kate WinsletIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsEternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Revolutionary Road, Titanic▶ 26:26
Nina SimoneIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsPoint of No Return, Miami Vice▶ 49:14
Thomas HillIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 52:04