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‘First Blood’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman

January 19, 2021 · First Blood (1982) · Action · Adventure · Thriller · 1:22:49 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes: Rambo's jail escape (starting with the shaving scene), Rambo on the cliff jump, nighttime hunting sequence, Troutman's first scene ('God didn't build Rambo. I made him'), the rats scene, and the final escape sequence▶ 30:12
Brian KoppelmanAgrees with and elaborates on the jail escape sequence, emphasizing Stallone's physical acting and the motorcycle scene as exemplary action filmmaking▶ 32:24

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsThe credits showing producers Mario Kassar and Andrew J. Vagina - suspects they might not have been real people but fictional powerful foreign producer names▶ 45:18
Brian KoppelmanAgrees with SPEAKER_01's point about the producer names, and adds that small realistic details like jail painting and the radio operator reading a magazine give the movie credibility▶ 47:36

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsThe Dan Hill theme song 'It's a Long Road' that plays at the end of the movie▶ 51:57
Brian KoppelmanDefends Dan Hill and the song, disagreeing with SPEAKER_01's criticism▶ 52:28

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsGene HackmanGene Hackman would have made the movie better and elevated it to another level as Will Teasel▶ 56:12
Brian KoppelmanBrian DennehyPrefers Brian Dennehy over Gene Hackman because Hackman doing this role would have prevented him from doing Unforgiven, and Dennehy's physical presence was important▶ 56:16

Joey Pants Award

Bill SimmonsChris MulkeyDiscusses Chris Mulkey and one of the Miami Vice cops (Zito or Swiatek) who gets hit by Stallone's wooden trap, ultimately giving it to the Miami Vice cop▶ 58:25

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsPresents extensive research including: Blade magazine crediting Rambo franchise with revitalizing cutlery industry, Stallone breaking actor's nose during jail escape scene, stuntman breaking back in motorcycle scene, Stallone's $3.5M salary negotiation, Brian Dennehy Vietnam controversy, and deleted Penthouse Pet flashback scene▶ 1:01:22

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsRichard CrennaNot Stallone (peaks with Rambo 2 & Rocky IV in 1985), yes for Brian Dennehy and definitely Richard Crenna, Vietnam action movies, hunting knives, early 80s movie graphics▶ 1:04:17
Brian KoppelmanRichard CrennaRichard Crenna and Brian Dennehy both good cases, David Murrell (author), agrees on hunting knives as great call▶ 1:04:39

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsDoes Will Teasel work again after this incident? Would Rambo have blown up anyway (yes, someone would have pushed him)? Do mountains really have caves as elaborate as the one in the movie? Rambo vs Rocky preference question?▶ 1:13:13
Brian KoppelmanDoes Will Teasel realize it was 100% his fault? Would Rambo have eventually blown up regardless? How did Troutman get there so quickly? Why did Rambo spend the first night cooking instead of leaving through the cave? Where can you get Troutman's hat?▶ 1:13:21

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsSylvester StalloneSly Stallone by a landslide▶ 1:18:58
Brian KoppelmanSylvester StalloneAgrees with Stallone, noting it made him a billion dollars long run▶ 1:19:04

Movies Referenced (43)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Apocalypse Now (1979)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 9:25
Full Metal Jacket (1987)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 15:09
Gandhi (1982)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 22:58
Platoon (1986)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 15:05
The Rock (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Brian Koppelman▶ 35:06
Unforgiven (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Brian Koppelman, Bill Simmons▶ 56:22
All the President's Men (1976)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Brian Koppelman▶ 28:07
Blade (1998)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:01:32
Dirty Harry (1971)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 5:25
Fargo (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 29:36
Rocky III (1982)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 18:41
Rocky IV (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 21:35

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Clint EastwoodIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Brian KoppelmanMillion Dollar Baby, Gran Torino, Unforgiven▶ 5:21
Stanley KubrickIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Brian Koppelman, Bill SimmonsA Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon▶ 11:33
Ben AffleckIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsArgo, Gone Girl, The Town▶ 1:20:32
Gary GoldmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian Koppelman▶ 4:06

Actors Referenced (50)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Sylvester StalloneIMDb ↗Lb ↗39Bill Simmons, Brian KoppelmanRocky, Rocky IV, Creed▶ 1:43
Brian DennehyIMDb ↗Lb ↗19Brian Koppelman, Bill SimmonsFirst Blood▶ 27:13
Richard CrennaIMDb ↗Lb ↗18Brian Koppelman, Bill SimmonsRambo III, First Blood▶ 39:50
Ben KingsleyIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Brian Koppelman, Bill SimmonsGandhi, Schindler's List▶ 22:58
Dan HillIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Brian KoppelmanFirst Blood, Tropic Thunder▶ 52:06
Kirk DouglasIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 56:46
Michael B. JordanIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Brian KoppelmanBlack Panther, Creed, Fruitvale Station▶ 1:17:50
Charlize TheronIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Brian KoppelmanMad Max: Fury Road▶ 1:21:26
Dolph LundgrenIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Brian KoppelmanRocky IV, Masters of the Universe▶ 33:42
Roy ScheiderIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Brian Koppelman, Bill SimmonsJaws, The French Connection, All That Jazz▶ 3:09
Russell CroweIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Brian KoppelmanGladiator, A Beautiful Mind▶ 1:18:33
Tom CruiseIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Brian Koppelman, Bill SimmonsTop Gun, Minority Report▶ 1:19:14

Writers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 27:10
Andrew Lloyd WebberIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian KoppelmanThe Phantom of the Opera▶ 20:16
David MorrellIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian KoppelmanFirst Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part II▶ 7:34