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‘Halloween 4’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

October 29, 2024 · Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988) · Horror · Thriller · 1:36:40 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsOpening scene/credits, transferring dangerous patient scene, Jamie's nightmare with multiple Myers being pulled under bed, gas station scene with bandaged Michael, Loomis warning the sheriff, Myers killing spree scenes▶ 28:53
Chris RyanOpening scene (praising director Dwight H. Little's research on Halloween traditions), trick-or-treating night when Jamie gets separated and Rachel sees Brady with Kelly▶ 29:00
Van LathanTransferring patient scene (commenting on gross negligence), Rachel's storyline where she loses Jamie and finds Brady with another girl▶ 30:41

Hall of Fame Plaque

Bill SimmonsKathleen Kinmont (the naughty white girl character) for the Van Lathan Naughty White Girl Hall of Fame▶ 39:15
Van LathanAgrees with inducting Kathleen Kinmont into his Naughty White Girl Hall of Fame▶ 43:55

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Bill SimmonsAbandoned gas stations in horror movies▶ 48:43
Chris RyanThe gas station location with attached bar and Abe Lincoln pictures in Illinois▶ 48:47
Van LathanAbandoned or downtrodden asylums in horror movies▶ 48:55

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Bill SimmonsThe sheriff's daughter making six giant cups of coffee before she meets her demise▶ 49:33
Van LathanAgreed with Bill's pick about the coffee scene, interpreting it as a statement about the sheriff's daughter being a traditional wife who takes care of people▶ 50:30

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsThe actor playing Michael Myers/The Shape - not athletic enough, wearing padding, moves like a mummy; also mentions the bad mask that changes throughout the movie▶ 52:45
Chris RyanDr. Hoffman character - introduced as antagonistic to Loomis but then abandoned midway through the movie▶ 51:45
Van LathanDr. Loomis - calls him useless and blames him for everything that happens▶ 52:08

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsMultiple issues: missing a scene where Myers kills the Myers impersonators, the blonde wig Myers in schoolhouse, Rachel losing all eight kids trick-or-treating, and the inconsistent makeup/scarring on Loomis throughout the film▶ 56:58
Chris RyanThe inconsistency of whether people know who Michael Myers is - some kids dress up as him but Brady doesn't know who he is▶ 56:13
Van LathanJamie Lee Curtis not being in the movie - her absence is by far what's aged the worst since the character comes back for a new generation of fans▶ 55:58

Overacting Award

Bill SimmonsDonald PleasenceDr. Loomis, but also mentions the crazy religious guy who picks him up hitchhiking▶ 1:00:21
Chris RyanThe religious hitchhiking guy (who didn't know his lines)▶ 1:00:32
Van LathanAgrees the religious guy is throwing 150 every time he talks but doesn't give explicit pick▶ 1:00:34

Movies Referenced (22)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
The Mask (1994)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 3:33
Friday the 13th (1980)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 5:36
Scream (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 7:03
Dazed and Confused (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 21:19
Home Alone (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 16:53
Jaws (1975)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 17:06
Orphan (2009)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 46:16
The Killer (2023)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 14:22
The Other Guys (2010)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Van Lathan, Chris Ryan▶ 20:58
Batman Returns (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Van Lathan▶ 52:04
Child's Play (1988)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 5:40
Den of Thieves (2018)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 48:40

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
John CarpenterIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, Bill SimmonsHalloween▶ 7:33
Rob ZombieIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 0:02
Alan MyersonIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 9:45
David Gordon GreenIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Van Lathan▶ 45:21

Actors Referenced (19)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Jamie Lee CurtisIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris RyanTrue Lies, Everything Everywhere All at Once▶ 16:29
Aaron DonaldIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Van Lathan, Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 8:43
Lorenzo LamasIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill SimmonsGrease▶ 41:25
LL Cool JIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsDeep Blue Sea▶ 0:14
Michelle WilliamsIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsBlue Valentine, My Week with Marilyn, Manchester by the Sea▶ 24:06
Vincent ChaseIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 8:18
Adam VannerIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Meg, World War Z▶ 2:36
Busta RhymesIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Van Lathan▶ 23:54
Crazy TownIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanSomething's Gotta Give▶ 1:01:05
Erica VigilanteIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsTenet, Venom▶ 44:06
Jamie LeeIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsCold Mountain▶ 56:08
Judd NelsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Breakfast Club, St. Elmo's Fire▶ 1:00:43

Writers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 26:16

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Jeff MartIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanProof of Life▶ 43:21