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‘Stand By Me’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan

July 14, 2020 · Stand by Me (1986) · Adventure · Comedy · Drama · 1:21:48 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsDoesn't have a lot of what's aged the worst - the movie is just that good▶ 4:46

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsThe simplicity of gang leader characters like Ace - how you could be a badass just by playing chicken and carrying a knife, versus the much darker complexity required for such characters today▶ 5:28

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes: the hat scene with Ace and the older kids, Gordy buying supplies at the store and the junkyard chase, River Phoenix's speech about Gordy's writing talent, and the train bridge/pie eating contest scenes▶ 30:38
Chris RyanAgrees with and elaborates on SPEAKER_00's picks, particularly praising the hat scene for its character establishment and the store scene for its nostalgic relatability▶ 31:54

Joey Pants Award

Bill SimmonsMarshall BellMarshall Bell (agrees with SPEAKER_01's pick)▶ 1:01:40
Chris RyanMarshall BellMarshall Bell (who plays Gordy's dad and also Quato in Total Recall)▶ 1:01:31

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsJason PatricRecast Eyeball with Jason Patrick, Ralph Macchio, Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estevez, Christian Bale, or Christian Slater - someone in that Jason Patrick tier of actor▶ 1:05:24

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsShared multiple production facts: cast bonded for 2 weeks without rehearsing, vomit scene used cottage cheese and pies from local bakery, train scene used 600mm telephoto lens trick, Singleton homaged Stand By Me in Boyz n the Hood, Dreyfuss dismissive quote about not remembering the film, Wheaton was picked on by Corey Feldman and had to fake losing sprint to River Phoenix▶ 1:06:08
Chris RyanProvided commentary and reactions to SPEAKER_00's research, explaining the telephoto lens technique, criticizing Dreyfuss for being ungrateful, and suggesting new award category for actors least grateful about being in movies▶ 1:07:15

Picking Nits

Chris RyanIt really looks like Gordy's got the drop on Chris, but Chris turns on incredible Carl Lewis speed at that end there▶ 1:09:45

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsWil WheatonWill Wheaton: yes, Rob Reiner: no (A Few Good Men + Castle Rock/Seinfeld era is his apex), Corey Feldman: no (prefers Blown Away or Goonies), Jerry O'Connell: marrying Rebecca Romijn▶ 1:10:20
Chris RyanRiver PhoenixRiver Phoenix: Indiana Jones or My Own Private Idaho, vandalism in movies: Stand By Me is apex▶ 1:11:18

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsHow did Ace's gang find the body since it wasn't near anything? What's Gordy's writing career like - is it fiction or nonfiction, is he famous, what's his success level?▶ 1:15:50
Chris RyanWhat was the plan when they got to the body for either group? How did Ace's gang find the body in the middle of nowhere? Where is law enforcement in Castle Rock?▶ 1:14:54

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsRiver PhoenixRiver Phoenix (though acknowledges Rob Reiner as a possibility due to founding Castle Rock Entertainment after this film's success)▶ 1:18:47
Chris RyanRiver PhoenixRiver Phoenix (calling it a generational performance that has stood the test of time with timeless acting style)▶ 1:18:48

Movies Referenced (23)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
A Few Good Men (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 24:50
Road Trip (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 23:55
My Own Private Idaho (1991)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 8:22
The Beach (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 1:01:59
This Boy's Life (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 6:09
Titanic (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 9:30
Basic Instinct (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:10:36
Better Off Dead (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:04:04
Blood Diamond (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 11:13
East of Eden (1955)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 1:18:53
Friday the 13th (1980)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:10:58
Home Alone (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 7:45

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Rob ReinerIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Chris RyanThis Is Spinal Tap, The Wolf of Wall Street▶ 0:46
Andrea BiasIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsBlack Adam, A Simple Favor, The Intern▶ 6:35
Michael MannIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsThe Insider, Collateral, The Last of the Mohicans▶ 46:53
Sean PennIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanMystic River, 21 Grams, Dead Man Walking▶ 14:47

Actors Referenced (61)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
River PhoenixIMDb ↗Lb ↗27Bill Simmons, Chris RyanMy Own Private Idaho, Stand by Me, The Mosquito Coast▶ 5:50
Corey FeldmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗12Bill Simmons, Chris RyanStand by Me, The Lost Boys, The Goonies▶ 18:33
Kiefer SutherlandIMDb ↗Lb ↗11Bill SimmonsPhone Booth▶ 19:29
John CusackIMDb ↗Lb ↗10Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsHigh Fidelity, 1408▶ 17:28
Jerry O'ConnellIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Chris RyanStand by Me▶ 19:04
Richard DreyfussIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Chris RyanClose Encounters of the Third Kind, Mr. Holland's Opus▶ 1:00:20
Castle RockIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:11:55
Corey HaimIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill SimmonsThe Lost Boys▶ 18:41
Alex WinterIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 1:27
Wil WheatonIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsStand by Me, Toy Soldiers▶ 10:55
David DukesIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 1:00:24
Leonardo DiCaprioIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris RyanInception, The Wolf of Wall Street, The Departed▶ 6:09

Writers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Stephen KingIMDb ↗Lb ↗11Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 2:34
Norman LearIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill SimmonsFried Green Tomatoes▶ 25:59
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 29:51

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Stamos TriantafyllosIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsWonder Woman▶ 50:57