‘The Doors’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Chuck Klosterman
March 2, 2021 · The Doors (1991) · Biography · Drama · Music · 1:52:12
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Most Rewatchable Scene
Chuck KlostermanThe everything's taking off montage with the plane scene where they introduce themselves▶ 36:51
What's Aged the Best
Bill SimmonsThe Top Gun connection, the theme of death with the bald guy representing death moving closer to Jim, and the closing credits sequence with LA Woman▶ 1:00:01
Chris RyanThe Doors music and how well the band members look like they're actually playing their instruments, especially Frank Whaley on guitar and Kevin Doan on drums▶ 1:01:12
What's Aged the Worst
Bill SimmonsMeg Ryan's miscasting as Pam - felt wrong at the time and Stone later disowned the casting; plus Kevin Dillon as Johnny Drama, terrible wigs throughout the movie, dated desert drug scene special effects, and problematic casting process behind the scenes▶ 1:04:32
Chris RyanAgrees Meg Ryan seemed like she was in another movie, and the wigs were terrible - specifically notes Whaley 'looks like a burn victim'▶ 1:05:18
Chuck KlostermanDisagrees that Meg Ryan was that bad, thinks Nicole Kidman would have been better casting but defends some of Ryan's comedic moments▶ 1:05:38
Casting What-Ifs
Bill SimmonsIan Astbury — Lists multiple casting alternatives: Ian Asbury (The Cult) offered Morrison role, Michael Hutchins and Bono considered, Michael Madsen auditioned for Morrison then moved to Tom Baker role, Billy Idol originally cast as Tom Baker before motorcycle accident, Patricia Arquette should have gotten Pam role over Meg Ryan, Kyle MacLachlan was Stone's first choice for Charlie Sheen's Platoon role▶ 1:10:51
Chris RyanBilly Idol — Jokes that Billy Idol would have multiple Oscars and played Abraham Lincoln if not for motorcycle accident▶ 1:12:01
Chuck KlostermanIan Astbury — Agrees Ian Asbury would have been good choice for Morrison, notes Michael Hutchins could have been good, finds Bono choice strange but plausible for that time period▶ 1:10:56
Joey Pants Award
Chris RyanTitus Welliver — Added Titus Welliver as additional nominee and identified Michael Wincott from The Crow▶ 1:13:37
Half-Assed Internet Research
Bill SimmonsVal Kilmer memo instructing people not to make eye contact with him during filming; Patricia reporter character was a composite, not a real person; they filmed at Barney's Beanery for the bar scenes▶ 1:19:21
Chuck KlostermanOliver Stone told him Val Kilmer's biggest issue was being tired of wearing the same black leather pants every day during filming▶ 1:19:53
Apex Mountain
Bill SimmonsVal Kilmer — Val Kilmer - this made him an A-lister and changed his career, putting him in conversation with the most important actors▶ 1:22:57
Chuck KlostermanVal Kilmer — Val Kilmer - agrees this is by far his best role and a giant movie star role▶ 1:24:04
Probably Unanswerable Questions
Bill SimmonsWould you have watched a prequel about Jim's entire stint at USC film school? Also asked about best use of Arthur Rimbaud book - Eddie and the Cruisers vs this movie, answered Eddie and the Cruisers▶ 1:40:31
Chris RyanYes, would absolutely watch USC film school prequel. Asked did they always have such incredibly telling books lying around as props - questioning whether the strategic book placement was realistic▶ 1:40:35
Chuck KlostermanObserved that Jim Morrison character needs to lay books out so every title is visible rather than stacking them, suggesting Oliver Stone was being very deliberate about book placement for symbolic effect▶ 1:41:07
Who Won the Movie
Bill SimmonsVal Kilmer — Val Kilmer wins the movie convincingly, like a unanimous MVP vote in an NBA season▶ 1:42:36
Movies Referenced (33)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Natural Born Killers (1994) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Chuck Klosterman | ▶ 25:33 |
| Pulp Fiction (1994) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Chuck Klosterman | ▶ 1:12:58 |
| The Beach (2000) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chuck Klosterman, Bill Simmons | ▶ 8:38 |
| Top Gun (1986) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 2:28 |
| Lincoln (2012) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 2:38 |
| Platoon (1986) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 25:18 |
| Sing (2016) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chuck Klosterman, Bill Simmons | ▶ 8:17 |
| Wayne's World 2 (1993) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:07:53 |
| Apocalypse Now (1979) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 5:19 |
| Fargo (1996) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:03:55 |
| Malcolm X (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 2:38 |
| The Meg (2018) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:04:43 |
Directors Referenced (7)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oliver Stone | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 38 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Chuck Klosterman | Born on the Fourth of July, Platoon, JFK | ▶ 1:37 |
| Ray Manzarek | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Chuck Klosterman | The X Files | ▶ 8:38 |
| Brian De Palma | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Body Double, Dressed to Kill, The Bonfire of the Vanities | ▶ 28:39 |
| Dead or Alive | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The A-Team | ▶ 5:38 |
| Roger Corman | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Silence of the Lambs, Apollo 13, Little Shop of Horrors | ▶ 1:42:15 |
| Warren Beatty | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Heaven Can Wait | ▶ 6:59 |
| William Friedkin | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | To Live and Die in L.A., The French Connection, The Exorcist | ▶ 28:49 |
Actors Referenced (75)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jim Morrison | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 51 | Bill Simmons, Chuck Klosterman, Chris Ryan | Forrest Gump, The X Files | ▶ 2:12 |
| Val Kilmer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 38 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Chuck Klosterman | The Doors, The Saint, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang | ▶ 2:26 |
| Frank Whaley | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 12 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Chuck Klosterman | Broken Arrow, Pulp Fiction | ▶ 24:42 |
| Michael Madsen | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 12 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | The Hateful Eight, Kill Bill: Vol. 1, Species | ▶ 45:11 |
| Bill Walton | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 9 | Chuck Klosterman, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Little Nicky, He Got Game | ▶ 15:41 |
| Billy Idol | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 9 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | The Wedding Singer, Speed | ▶ 45:11 |
| Ed Sullivan | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 9 | Chuck Klosterman, Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 27:17 | |
| Meg Ryan | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | When Harry Met Sally..., Sleepless in Seattle, You've Got Mail | ▶ 41:05 |
| Kevin Dillon | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Platoon, The Doors | ▶ 2:57 |
| Led Zeppelin | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Chuck Klosterman, Chris Ryan | ▶ 11:11 | |
| Patricia Arquette | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Chuck Klosterman | True Romance, Boyhood | ▶ 41:21 |
| The Killers | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Chuck Klosterman | Spider-Man 3, About Time | ▶ 25:33 |
Writers Referenced (7)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Buddy Holly | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Chuck Klosterman | Big Fish, Almost Famous | ▶ 7:54 |
| Roger Ebert | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Chuck Klosterman | ▶ 29:38 | |
| Charles Manson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood | ▶ 52:21 |
| James Cameron | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Avatar, Aliens, Terminator 2: Judgment Day | ▶ 1:25:58 |
| Johnny Cash | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Walk the Line | ▶ 7:51 |
| Loretta Lynn | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Logan Lucky | ▶ 7:57 |
| Malcolm X | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Malcolm X | ▶ 2:38 |