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‘Titanic’ 25th Anniversary With Bill Simmons and Van Lathan

March 15, 2022 · Titanic (1997) · Drama · Romance · 1:44:34 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsRose's meltdown on the boat where Jack almost gets blamed, and the dinner party scene where Leo gives his 'life's a gift' speech▶ 50:41

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsTheir video about Rose on the YouTube channel▶ 1:09:57

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsThe 3 hour 15 minute runtime, Danny Nucci's Italian accent, and Billy Zane's over-the-top performance (especially the Picasso scene)▶ 1:10:38
Van LathanBilly Zane's abusive character portrayal, though defends Zane as an actor and acknowledges the movie's lack of subtlety in character development▶ 1:11:11

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsJohnny DeppDiscusses multiple what-ifs including Johnny Depp turning down Jack, Jeremy Sisto being auditioned multiple times, Gwyneth Paltrow for Rose (thinks she would have been decent but Winslet was better), Matthew McConaughey offered Billy Zane's role, and Robert De Niro offered Captain Smith▶ 1:14:03
Van LathanGwyneth PaltrowGwyneth Paltrow would have been too refined/regal for Rose - 'there's something too regal about Gwyneth Paltrow' and agrees McConaughey turning down the villain role was smart for his career▶ 1:15:37

Joey Pants Award

Bill SimmonsFrances FisherThe mom (Terminator 2 lady) - the actress who was the evil lady in Terminator 2▶ 1:17:09
Van LathanFrances FisherAgreed with SPEAKER_00's pick and noted the actress was also in Lethal Weapon 2▶ 1:17:21

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsExtensive trivia presentation covering movie vs. real life facts, including Cameron's 12 dives to film real Titanic footage, the J. Dawson gravestone coincidence, production details like the 160-day shoot costing $150 million, Kate Winslet getting pneumonia from not wearing a wetsuit, and the real $2.2 million necklace that was later auctioned for charity▶ 1:19:31
Van LathanReacted with amazement to the 160-day shoot duration ('That's longer than a football season. That's nuts.') and expressed surprise about the real $2.2 million necklace ('The necklace was real. Oh, wow. I did not know that.')▶ 1:22:42

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsLeonardo DiCaprioInitially argues yes for Leo with Titanic making him biggest star in the world, but acknowledges 2006 (Blood Diamond/The Departed) as alternative. Says James Cameron has to be yes, Billy Zane yes, disaster movies yes, icebergs yes, heroes from Wisconsin goes with Jack▶ 1:23:55
Van LathanThe DepartedThe Departed for Leonardo DiCaprio over Titanic, because people don't think of Titanic when they hear DiCaprio's name now▶ 1:24:30

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsLeonardo DiCaprioLeonardo DiCaprio - becomes the biggest star of the last 25 years▶ 1:38:32

Movies Referenced (45)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
The Godfather (1972)IMDb ↗Lb ↗8Bill Simmons▶ 3:36
Catch Me If You Can (2002)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 57:49
The Beach (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons▶ 7:33
Gone with the Wind (1939)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons▶ 5:58
The Departed (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 1:24:05
Boogie Nights (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 48:45
Philadelphia (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 1:28:20
2012 (2009)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 17:58
Aliens (1986)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 8:45
Avatar (2009)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Van Lathan▶ 14:19
Blood Diamond (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:24:05
Fargo (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 32:35

Directors Referenced (7)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Kevin CostnerIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Van LathanDances with Wolves, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves▶ 16:25
Mel GibsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Van Lathan, Bill SimmonsBraveheart, Lethal Weapon 3, Conspiracy Theory▶ 15:02
Paul BellanyIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsStardust▶ 0:11
Paul Thomas AndersonIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Van LathanPunch-Drunk Love, Licorice Pizza, There Will Be Blood▶ 1:36:53
Robert AltmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsGosford Park▶ 1:12:12
Roland EmmerichIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsIndependence Day, The Day After Tomorrow▶ 11:14
Steve NashIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:02:20

Actors Referenced (47)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Jack NicholsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗85Bill Simmons, Van LathanChinatown, As Good as It Gets, The Departed▶ 7:07
Kate WinsletIMDb ↗Lb ↗25Bill Simmons, Van LathanEternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Revolutionary Road, Titanic▶ 2:38
Billy ZaneIMDb ↗Lb ↗16Bill Simmons, Van LathanTitanic▶ 8:37
Leonardo DiCaprioIMDb ↗Lb ↗13Van Lathan, Bill SimmonsInception, The Wolf of Wall Street, The Departed▶ 2:31
Kathy BatesIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Van LathanMisery, Titanic▶ 8:35
LeBron JamesIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 30:27
Matt DamonIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Van Lathan, Bill SimmonsGood Will Hunting, The Martian, The Departed▶ 0:11
Jeremy SistoIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Van LathanWrong Turn, Clueless▶ 1:14:27
Jonah HillIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Van Lathan21 Jump Street, 22 Jump Street, The Wolf of Wall Street▶ 26:40
Bill PaxtonIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Van Lathan, Bill SimmonsAliens, Apollo 13▶ 11:43
Mark WahlbergIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Van LathanThe Fighter, Boogie Nights, The Departed▶ 48:45
Robert De NiroIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill SimmonsCape Fear, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver▶ 23:42

Writers Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
James CameronIMDb ↗Lb ↗28Bill Simmons, Van LathanAvatar, Aliens, Terminator 2: Judgment Day▶ 2:40
William GoldmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsButch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, All the President's Men, The Princess Bride▶ 56:34
Fam UdeorjiIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 43:11
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 48:58