‘Bad Boys’ (1983) With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan
March 14, 2023 · Bad Boys (1983) · Crime · Drama · Thriller · 1:17:13 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award
Bill SimmonsS.I. Morales is a fucking awesome actor, and they had no parts for the guy. If you just put him in a time machine and put him in 2022, there would be parts galore, and he would have been a much bigger deal.▶ 25:58
Apex Mountain
Bill SimmonsDiscussed multiple elements including the bald, black, muscular teacher guard guy (Daniel), blonde permafro/Sigma haircut of 1982-83, and Illinois State Penitentiary location▶ 39:30
Chris RyanAgreed on the blonde permafro haircut being at its peak, noting how security guys for Bon Jovi had this look and it was impossible to tell someone's profession by their hair▶ 40:29
Den of Thieves Benihana Award
Chris RyanAgrees with Chicago choice and discusses how it connects to other Chicago crime films like Thief, suggesting an extended Chicago crime universe▶ 42:10
Great Shot Gordo Award
Bill SimmonsFinal scene - wide shot of Penn walking back to his cell and everyone reassembling the stuff and letting the guards out▶ 47:52
Chris RyanOne take of Mick and the young kid getting introduced into the reform school - pans around to all the guys clapping▶ 48:03
Butch's Girlfriend Award
Bill SimmonsThe abrupt scene where Mick escapes to see his girlfriend - he's there for 90 seconds then gets caught immediately▶ 48:30
Chris RyanAgrees it's a narrative device that feels unnecessary - could have just had Paco coming into prison without the extra layer of vengeance▶ 48:51
Is There a Better Title?
Bill SimmonsNo better title - Bad Boys was a great title and should have remained unique to this movie▶ 53:30
Casting What-Ifs
Bill SimmonsSuggests nobody could play Mick O'Brien in 2023, dismisses Chalamet, doesn't provide a specific alternative▶ 59:12
Probably Unanswerable Questions
Bill SimmonsMultiple questions including: Why didn't Eric Gurry make it in Hollywood? What would Bad Boys 2 plot be (suggests Paco's revenge)? Would you take 4 weeks solitary or 4 months added time? What were Viking's injuries and recovery time?▶ 1:08:12
Chris RyanBad Boys 2 should feature Sean Penn and Isai Morales as warden/floor boss helping inmates. For solitary vs 4 months added time, would probably choose the 4 months after experiencing 9 days of COVID isolation.▶ 1:09:23
Best Double Feature
Bill SimmonsTuff Turf — Tough Turf with James Spader - a 1985 LA high school gone haywire movie▶ 1:11:39
Chris RyanThe Warriors — The Warriors - described as a more fantastical version of the same tribal gang culture▶ 1:11:56
Movies Referenced (33)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bad Boys (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 33 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 1:54 |
| Risky Business (1983) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 3:05 |
| Halloween (1978) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 4:47 |
| The Prestige (2006) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 0:00 |
| True Romance (1993) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 46:04 |
| Weapons (2025) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:04:55 |
| Carlito's Way (1993) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 9:42 |
| Casualties of War (1989) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 22:28 |
| Dead Man Walking (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 9:32 |
| Fargo (1996) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 56:20 |
| Identity (2003) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 21:16 |
| Sideways (2004) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 13:50 |
Directors Referenced (8)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sean Penn | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 68 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Mystic River, 21 Grams, Dead Man Walking | ▶ 2:17 |
| Rick Rosenthal | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Bad Boys, Halloween II | ▶ 4:47 |
| Jack O'Connell | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 59:19 | |
| John Carpenter | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | Halloween | ▶ 4:47 |
| John Cassavetes | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Rosemary's Baby | ▶ 17:41 |
| John Hughes | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Planes, Trains & Automobiles, Uncle Buck, The Breakfast Club | ▶ 41:59 |
| Philip D'Antoni | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | The French Connection | ▶ 27:21 |
| Sidney Lumet | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | 12 Angry Men | ▶ 27:21 |
Actors Referenced (49)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Paco Moreno | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 24 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 29:46 | |
| Matt Dillon | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | There's Something About Mary, Crash | ▶ 3:13 |
| Tom Cruise | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Top Gun, Minority Report | ▶ 3:05 |
| Clancy Brown | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | The Shawshank Redemption, Starship Troopers | ▶ 24:05 |
| Tom Sizemore | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons | Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down | ▶ 44:14 |
| Al Pacino | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather | ▶ 17:50 |
| Ally Sheedy | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | WarGames, The Breakfast Club | ▶ 23:58 |
| Philip Baker Hall | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons | Magnolia, Boogie Nights | ▶ 0:14 |
| Eric Gurry | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | Bad Boys | ▶ 1:02:44 |
| Jamie Lee Curtis | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | True Lies, Everything Everywhere All at Once | ▶ 1:01:19 |
| Jerry Seinfeld | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 57:55 | |
| Leonardo DiCaprio | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan | Inception, The Wolf of Wall Street, The Departed | ▶ 7:41 |
Writers Referenced (1)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jack London | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 7:59 |
Cinematographers Referenced (1)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Aymeric Colas | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Substance | ▶ 1:05:11 |