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‘Cape Fear’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey

March 28, 2023 · Cape Fear (1991) · Crime · Drama · Thriller · 1:43:25 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsSteven SpielbergSteven Spielberg was originally supposed to direct Cape Fear before it was traded to Scorsese for Schindler's List - describes this as one of the great movie trades of all time that worked out for both directors▶ 2:54
Chris RyanJohn WilliamsImagines a John Williams score for the Spielberg version would have been incongruous - mimics the Jurassic Park theme playing over Max Cady doing sit-ups in jail▶ 3:51
Sean FennesseyMartin ScorseseCannot imagine the Steven Spielberg version and is thankful Martin Scorsese directed it instead - calls Scorsese 'our favorite sick fuck' who knows how to show what's demonic about souls▶ 3:47

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMax Cady fending off three hitmen - the bike chain fight scene▶ 43:52
Chris RyanThe whole night where they're waiting for Cady to show up with the teddy bear, and he shows up dressed as the maid and kills Joe Don Baker▶ 45:47
Sean FennesseyThe scene between Joe Don Baker when he gets made by Cady, then they meet outside the diner and have their one-on-one confrontation▶ 46:09

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsThe Simpsons parody episode 'Cape Feare' which is considered one of the five or six best Simpsons episodes; anytime the bad guy kills the family dog in a movie; Max's tattoo reveals in jail being some of the best tattoo work ever seen in a movie; widescreen TVs making the movie look incredible after being hard to watch on cable▶ 49:30
Chris RyanAt 45 years old, seeing a dog in a movie and knowing the clock is ticking; Martin Scorsese shooting athletic activities, specifically praising the racquetball scene; De Niro's line about moving to California to teach earthquake preparedness▶ 50:44
Sean FennesseyThe 'Bake them away, toys' joke from The Simpsons Cape Fear parody episode; taking Juliette Lewis over other famous people who wouldn't have been right for the role▶ 49:52

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Chris RyanJoe Don Baker pouring Pepto-Bismol into a mug of bourbon/Jim Beam▶ 57:16

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Chris Ryanthe upside down phone call▶ 58:35
Sean Fennesseywhen he leaves prison, walking into the camera▶ 58:12

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsHer character not testifying (despite the explanation that they need her not to testify because otherwise Katie goes to jail)▶ 1:00:07
Chris RyanDefends the character's reasoning as heartbreaking and consistent with how the antagonist operates right on the line of legality▶ 1:00:53
Sean FennesseyDefends the not testifying plot point as realistic for 1991 due to the culture of fear around coming forward with sexual assault▶ 1:00:34

Is There a Better Title?

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsEvery man carries a circle of hell around their head like a halo / If you hang on to the past, you die a little every day▶ 1:04:55

Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Bill SimmonsDe Niro is indisputably the greatest maniac actor we've ever had - citing nine movies where he's a malevolent force including Travis Bickle, Max Cady, Jimmy Conway▶ 1:06:02
Chris RyanMax Cady did what Dr. Hackett could not and brought Lee and Sam back together - he was a great marriage counselor with unorthodox methods▶ 1:05:20
Sean FennesseySam and Lee definitely needed to break up and Sam would have been way happier with Lori (the racquetball lady) - sticking together isn't always the answer▶ 1:05:38

Apex Mountain

Chris RyanAl PacinoPacino has it over Lewis Seifert for playing Satan▶ 1:07:53
Sean FennesseyAl PacinoAl Pacino's Satan performance is Apex Mountain for playing evil▶ 1:07:50

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsFalse internet research that Sarah Jessica Parker was cast and replaced by Juliette Lewis - it's false because Scorsese said she was the first person they cast. They auditioned 500 actresses including Jennifer Connelly, Drew Barrymore, and Reese Witherspoon who were both 15 during filming. Diane Keaton was going to play the wife role.▶ 1:08:54
Sean FennesseyDrew Barrymore said not getting the role was one of her greatest disappointments and that she blew the audition. Glad it wasn't Drew Barrymore because she has such a different energy.▶ 1:09:30

Overacting Award

Bill SimmonsJessica LangeJessica Lange for her screaming performance, particularly the 'Why did you bother?' scene and blaming scenes▶ 1:10:42
Chris RyanJessica LangeJessica Lange for the extended smoking and face-touching sequences and overall manic behavior▶ 1:11:06
Sean FennesseyJessica LangeAgrees Jessica Lange's performance is excessive 'even for a movie like this'▶ 1:11:04

Racehorse Name Award

Is This Movie Better With

Bill SimmonsJ.T. WalshSuggests J.T. Walsh could play the Joe Don Baker part, says De Niro is probably the answer to all questions about who gets utility player roles▶ 1:25:32
Chris RyanWayne Jenkins as Jessica Lange's boss at the graphic design firm▶ 1:24:45
Sean FennesseyJ.T. WalshJ.T. Walsh should be in this movie, doesn't know what part but says 'this is a J.T. Walsh movie'▶ 1:25:19

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsYes, this is one of the top five greatest De Niro death scenes, alongside Heat, Taxi Driver, Joker, Jackie Brown, and Cape Fear▶ 1:27:12
Chris RyanKursick has too much time because it's summer in North Carolina and the Tar Heels aren't playing basketball▶ 1:28:57
Sean FennesseyIf given 14 years in prison, he would learn to code▶ 1:30:55

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsDon't bury evidence when representing someone; explores whether bad people deserve fair representation▶ 1:33:47
Chris RyanLeave town - get out on something no one can feasibly hang on you▶ 1:33:51
Sean FennesseyI am as large as God, God is as small as I - just read your scripture▶ 1:33:58

Who Won the Movie

Sean FennesseyRobert De NiroDe Niro - agrees that Max Cady is such an iconic figure, though usually picks the director▶ 1:34:37

Movies Referenced (64)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Goodfellas (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan▶ 6:46
John Wick (2014)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:36:16
Walking Tall (2004)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 46:21
Angel Heart (1987)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey▶ 1:07:57
From Hell (2001)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey▶ 5:52
Miami Vice (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan▶ 1:15:45
Taxi Driver (1976)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 38:30
Casino (1995)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 14:19
Creed (2015)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 1:36:16
Frankenstein (2025)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 14:45
Joker (2019)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 1:27:31
Mad Dog and Glory (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 14:28

Directors Referenced (11)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Martin ScorseseIMDb ↗Lb ↗36Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanTaxi Driver, Killers of the Flower Moon, Mean Streets▶ 2:02
Steven SpielbergIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanSchindler's List, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Saving Private Ryan▶ 2:54
Don BakerIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyBlade Runner, RoboCop▶ 45:56
Brian De PalmaIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyBody Double, Dressed to Kill, The Bonfire of the Vanities▶ 56:36
George MillerIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean Fennessey▶ 21:13
Ingmar BergmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanThe Seventh Seal▶ 37:54
James IvoryIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyCall Me by Your Name, The Remains of the Day▶ 21:26
Jonathan DemmeIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanThe Silence of the Lambs, Philadelphia, Rachel Getting Married▶ 5:29
Michael BayIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanArmageddon▶ 13:20
Sidney LumetIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean Fennessey12 Angry Men▶ 21:00
William FriedkinIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyTo Live and Die in L.A., The French Connection, The Exorcist▶ 21:19

Actors Referenced (83)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Robert De NiroIMDb ↗Lb ↗46Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanCape Fear, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver▶ 2:35
Nick NolteIMDb ↗Lb ↗27Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyWarrior▶ 2:35
Joe Don BakerIMDb ↗Lb ↗18Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanGoldenEye, Cape Fear▶ 1:59
Jessica LangeIMDb ↗Lb ↗16Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyTootsie, The Postman Always Rings Twice▶ 2:35
Juliette LewisIMDb ↗Lb ↗13Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanCape Fear, Natural Born Killers▶ 18:02
Bill MurrayIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanLost in Translation, Rushmore, Moonrise Kingdom▶ 32:14
Migs GoveaIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill SimmonsOcean's Eight▶ 30:01
Reese WitherspoonIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill SimmonsWalk the Line, Legally Blonde▶ 48:08
Robert MitchumIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyOut of the Past▶ 18:25
Gregory PeckIMDb ↗Lb ↗8Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons, Chris RyanTo Kill a Mockingbird, Roman Holiday▶ 18:25
Robert E. LeeIMDb ↗Lb ↗8Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsTrading Places▶ 41:50
Anthony HopkinsIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris RyanThe Silence of the Lambs▶ 5:29

Writers Referenced (10)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Charles MansonIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyOnce Upon a Time... in Hollywood▶ 16:24
Damien ChazelleIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsWhiplash, La La Land, First Man▶ 37:35
Peter BartIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyRevenge of the Nerds, Fun with Dick and Jane▶ 8:53
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 2:20
John MiltonIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean Fennessey▶ 1:07:30
Nancy MeyersIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyIt's Complicated, Something's Gotta Give, Private Benjamin▶ 21:21
Nora EphronIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyJulie & Julia, When Harry Met Sally...▶ 21:17
Ryan CooglerIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsBlack Panther, Creed▶ 1:37:15
Thomas HarrisIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanThe Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal Rising, Manhunter▶ 5:21
Wesley StrickIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyCape Fear▶ 1:20:00

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Freddie FrancisIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyThe Elephant Man, The Straight Story▶ 7:25