‘Crimson Tide’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan
May 12, 2020 · Crimson Tide (1995) · Action · Drama · Thriller · 1:25:36 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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Casting What-Ifs
Bill SimmonsTom Cruise — Tom Cruise could have played Denzel's part - would have been more brash and sarcastic, like A Few Good Men▶ 12:23
Most Rewatchable Scene
Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes: First Hackman-Denzel meeting with the horses/high school girls comparison, the post-fire missile drill confrontation, Denzel's Silver Surfer scene, and the mutiny scene where Denzel relieves Hackman▶ 31:50
What's Aged the Worst
Bill SimmonsMultiple picks: the movie being a great big screen experience that's hard to replicate at home, Lillo Brancato (the actor from Bronx Tale) due to his real-life issues, Hackman threatening to kill people, and Hackman's overt racism at the end▶ 53:42
Half-Assed Internet Research
Bill SimmonsShared multiple trivia facts: Tarantino's three scenes, Denzel confronting Tarantino about N-word usage on set, Robert Town dictating rewrites over phone to Simpson/Bruckheimer, Robert Mueller quoting Hackman's line, and U.S. Navy withdrawing support after learning about mutiny plot▶ 1:08:16
Chris RyanReferenced David Milch's story about Don Simpson phone calls on Dinner for Five show, comparing it to the Robert Town rewrite situation▶ 1:09:58
Sean FennesseyRecommended the book 'High Concept' about Simpson and Bruckheimer, and shared Tony Scott's response to Navy controversy about mutiny training for officers▶ 1:10:51
Apex Mountain
Bill SimmonsTony Scott — Tony Scott - argues for Crimson Tide as his apex because The Fan was greenlit after it despite being terrible, showing his peak influence▶ 1:13:40
Sean FennesseyTony Scott — Tony Scott - mentions his three favorites are Last Boy Scout, True Romance and Crimson Tide but doesn't definitively pick one as apex▶ 1:13:22
Picking Nits
Bill SimmonsBringing the dog on the sub and the bathroom logistics - should have had someone walk it or created an AstroTurf area instead of having piss and shit everywhere▶ 1:17:10
Chris RyanWhat Steve Zahn's actual job is - he just spends time smoking, listening to radio, and can't perform basic tasks like closing hatches▶ 1:18:06
Chris RyanThe crew learns too much information from cable news, even for 1995 - they find out about major events from TV rather than military briefings▶ 1:18:21
Sean FennesseyWhy the only cassette they listen to is Martha and the Vandellas 'Nowhere to Run' over and over - weird choice for naval officers in 1995▶ 1:18:52
Probably Unanswerable Questions
Chris RyanThe final reconciliation scene doesn't work - characters forgive too easily after the racist analogy and nuclear incident▶ 1:20:37
Sean FennesseyAgrees the final scene is problematic, noting the character circles back aggressively on his racist analogy and nearly caused nuclear destruction▶ 1:20:53
Who Won the Movie
Bill SimmonsDenzel Washington — Denzel Washington (tied with Don Simpson) - thought Denzel's part was harder and ultimately chose him over Hackman▶ 1:22:57
Chris RyanDenzel Washington — Washington - establishes himself as a movie star at another level▶ 1:22:31
Sean FennesseyDenzel Washington — Denzel Washington - agrees with Chris that Denzel supercharged into mainstream movie stardom▶ 1:22:48
Movies Referenced (46)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braveheart (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 19:30 |
| Enemy of the State (1998) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons | ▶ 9:35 |
| True Romance (1993) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 1:02:36 |
| A Few Good Men (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 1:23:10 |
| Run Silent Run Deep (1958) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Sean Fennessey | ▶ 15:48 |
| Top Gun (1986) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 36:58 |
| Apollo 13 (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 20:46 |
| Basic Instinct (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 27:04 |
| Boogie Nights (1997) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons | ▶ 58:40 |
| Deja Vu (2006) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 7:24 |
| Groundhog Day (1993) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 1:00:01 |
| Malcolm X (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 8:03 |
Directors Referenced (10)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tony Scott | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 27 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | Unstoppable, True Romance | ▶ 1:51 |
| Sean Penn | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 15 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Mystic River, 21 Grams, Dead Man Walking | ▶ 1:46 |
| Quentin Tarantino | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 12 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, From Dusk Till Dawn | ▶ 6:40 |
| Warren Beatty | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | Heaven Can Wait | ▶ 58:15 |
| John McTiernan | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Die Hard, Last Action Hero | ▶ 47:53 |
| Spike Lee | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, She's Gotta Have It | ▶ 9:25 |
| Walt Frasier | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 1:14:17 | |
| Jannecke Nilsen | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 27:04 | |
| John P. Fertitta | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Mississippi Burning | ▶ 47:09 |
| Michael Mann | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Sean Fennessey | The Insider, Collateral, The Last of the Mohicans | ▶ 4:52 |
Actors Referenced (66)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Denzel Washington | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 63 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 1:29 | |
| Gene Hackman | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 60 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven | ▶ 1:32 |
| Don Simpson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 19 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | Days of Thunder, Beverly Hills Cop, The Rock | ▶ 1:57 |
| Al Pacino | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 11 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather | ▶ 10:30 |
| Hans Zimmer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 10 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | Gladiator, Interstellar | ▶ 27:27 |
| Brad Pitt | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | Fight Club, 12 Monkeys, Mr. & Mrs. Smith | ▶ 20:47 |
| Jason Robards | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | All the President's Men, Magnolia, Once Upon a Time in the West | ▶ 16:40 |
| Matt Craven | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Crimson Tide, A Few Good Men | ▶ 44:06 |
| Tom Cruise | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | Top Gun, Minority Report | ▶ 24:40 |
| Tom Hanks | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | Cast Away, Big, Forrest Gump | ▶ 8:20 |
| DJ Premier | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Inside Man | ▶ 1:08:35 |
| Danny Nucci | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | Titanic, Crimson Tide, Alive | ▶ 34:17 |
Writers Referenced (12)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jerry Bruckheimer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 12 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | Top Gun: Maverick, Armageddon | ▶ 1:57 |
| Ted Jessup | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons | Ted 2 | ▶ 1:23:21 |
| David Milch | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 1:10:04 | |
| Malcolm X | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons | Malcolm X | ▶ 8:03 |
| Michael Schiffer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | Crimson Tide | ▶ 7:41 |
| Robert Towne | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | Chinatown, Mission: Impossible | ▶ 3:50 |
| Brian Koppelman | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Runaway Jury, Michael Clayton | ▶ 30:41 |
| Jon Favreau | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Chef, Iron Man, Swingers | ▶ 1:10:16 |
| Julie Siege | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 59:16 | |
| Michael Dinner | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 1:10:04 | |
| Tom Clancy | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | The Hunt for Red October, The Sum of All Fears, Clear and Present Danger | ▶ 1:16:14 |
| William Goldman | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, All the President's Men, The Princess Bride | ▶ 4:00 |