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‘Internal Affairs’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan
March 19, 2024 · Internal Affairs (1990) · Crime · Drama · Thriller · 1:40:10 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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Probably Unanswerable Questions
Chris RyanIs it Van Stretch like Van Lathan or is it Van Stretch like Keith Van Horn? And they just don't call him by his first name.▶ 22:30
Most Rewatchable Scene
Bill SimmonsRamon goes to see Dennis at the taco stand where Peck asks 'Your wife fuck around?' and manipulates Raymond▶ 30:39
Bill SimmonsDennis goes to have a drink with the Orokas where he puts his hand on the wife's thigh▶ 35:49
Chris RyanStrongly supports the taco stand scene, introducing a new award for Richard Gere's acting performance in that scene▶ 32:35
Van LathanAgrees with and analyzes both scenes mentioned by SPEAKER_00, particularly praising the manipulation and acting in the taco stand scene▶ 31:57
Big Kahuna Burger Award
Bill SimmonsAll the styrofoam cup drinking and the Big Pepsis when they're both checking out the girl that walks by▶ 53:43
Den of Thieves Benihana Award
Bill SimmonsLa Pantororosa (the club) - because of the wide shot when he stumbles out in the morning▶ 53:55
Van LathanMentioned the Orocus Malibu place as a good option but didn't definitively pick it over the club▶ 54:06
Butch's Girlfriend Award
Bill SimmonsThe domestic violence scene where the protagonist hits his wife in a crowded restaurant▶ 57:39
Chris RyanAgrees the domestic violence is horrible and problematic, especially how they reconcile afterwards as if it was romantic▶ 57:48
Van LathanThe toxic masculinity trope that has aged poorly - where aggressive male behavior is justified by obsessive love▶ 58:03
What's Aged the Worst
Bill SimmonsOld police computers with green type - questioning how people could even read computers back then▶ 1:00:25
Chris RyanPeck taking away the cop's Raiders tickets, preventing him from seeing Bo Jackson in his prime▶ 58:51
Van LathanThe sexually charged scene where Ray puts his power over Amy when she reminds him she's the senior officer▶ 1:01:21
What's Aged the Best
Bill SimmonsCook holding - agrees it's way better known now and that this movie created the 'cook thriller' genre▶ 1:01:49
Van LathanCook holding - the concept is much better known now and exists in pop culture in a way it didn't before▶ 1:01:41
Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award
Bill SimmonsInternal Affairs is a cooler job than it gets credit for in movies - movies always portray IA negatively when they're actually the good guys trying to stop dirty cops▶ 1:08:07
Chris RyanDennis Peck's murders versus wives fucks ratio (11 to 5, or 2.2 ratio) - presented as 'John Hollinger Advanced Analytics Award' instead of Stephen A. Smith award▶ 1:06:45
Van LathanThis movie didn't need any more black people - it was the perfect amount of black representation for what was happening in the story▶ 1:09:51
Overacting Award
Van LathanThe Latino actor that gets shot and the cousin in the bar (both 'that guy' actors)▶ 1:15:08
Half-Assed Internet Research
Bill SimmonsDeleted scene with Raymond and Peck in bar talking about cops wanting to be bad, Dennis drives 1963 Chevrolet Stingray convertible, LAPD chief Daryl Gates condemned the movie, Faye Grant was married to Stephen Collins who was later accused of sexual abuse▶ 1:16:41
Apex Mountain
Bill SimmonsRichard Gere — Richard Gere - 1990 (Pretty Woman and Internal Affairs), Andy Garcia - 1990 (Internal Affairs and Godfather 3), Billy Baldwin - Backdraft, The Valley - Internal Affairs shows a cool side of the Valley, Slapping in movies - this film has extensive slapping scenes▶ 1:18:15
Chris RyanRichard Gere — Richard Gere - Pretty Woman is his Apex Mountain (1990), The Valley - suggests this might be Apex Mountain for the Valley rather than Boogie Nights or Magnolia▶ 1:18:18
Van LathanRichard Gere — Richard Gere - 1990 is his apex year, Cops fucking their partners' wives - this is the apex mountain for that trope, Man imagining wife with another man - Indecent Proposal is probably the winner for this category▶ 1:18:24
Is This Movie Better With
Bill SimmonsWayne Jenkins, Danny Trejo, Catherine Hahn, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, Michael K. Williams, Raymond Ramon, JT Walsh, Byron Mayo, Harley Mays▶ 1:30:00
Chris RyanChris Ryan suggests Byron Mayo would fit the 'dirty cop' theme, and then lists a series of names (Raymond, Kathleen, Kenny, Heather, Lolly, Key, Tova, Amy) seemingly as random additions, before pivoting to a tangent about oysters and an unfinished house.▶ 1:30:19
Best Double Feature
Bill SimmonsDeep Cover — Deep Cover (initially suggested) and Bad Influence (also mentioned for weird psycho sex movies era)▶ 1:33:16
Coach Finstock Life Lesson
Chris RyanThe key to a great villain is they have to be super attractive - attractive villains are the best kind of villains▶ 1:35:44
Movies Referenced (43)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| From Hell (2001) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris Ryan | ▶ 27:55 |
| Van Wilder (2002) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Van Lathan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 22:46 |
| Pretty Woman (1990) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan | ▶ 10:18 |
| Training Day (2001) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Van Lathan | ▶ 5:51 |
| Leaving Las Vegas (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Van Lathan, Chris Ryan | ▶ 24:24 |
| Braveheart (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan | ▶ 1:10:50 |
| The Untouchables (1987) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 13:23 |
| Bad Boys (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Van Lathan | ▶ 1:14:29 |
| Basic Instinct (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Van Lathan | ▶ 1:33:42 |
| Fargo (1996) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:23:52 |
| Ocean's Eleven (2001) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 1:18:42 |
| Risky Business (1983) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Van Lathan | ▶ 1:10:20 |
Directors Referenced (4)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mike Figgis | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Leaving Las Vegas | ▶ 23:10 |
| Kevin Costner | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Dances with Wolves, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves | ▶ 12:31 |
| Neil Jordan | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 23:45 | |
| Mel Gibson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Braveheart, Lethal Weapon 3, Conspiracy Theory | ▶ 1:11:38 |
Actors Referenced (67)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andy Garcia | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 28 | Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris Ryan | Ocean's Eleven, The Godfather Part III | ▶ 2:38 |
| Richard Gere | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 21 | Van Lathan, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Pretty Woman, An Officer and a Gentleman | ▶ 2:37 |
| Alec Baldwin | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 20 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan | The Departed, It's Complicated, Glengarry Glen Ross | ▶ 14:49 |
| Nancy Travis | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 11 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan | So I Married an Axe Murderer, The Vanishing, Three Men and a Little Lady | ▶ 47:06 |
| Michael Beach | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris Ryan | ▶ 9:51 | |
| Ron Silver | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 52:40 | |
| Bo Jackson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 58:54 | |
| Don Johnson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Van Lathan, Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | Django Unchained | ▶ 1:11:42 |
| Ray Liotta | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris Ryan | Goodfellas, Field of Dreams | ▶ 6:03 |
| Annabella Sciorra | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan, Van Lathan | The Hand That Rocks the Cradle | ▶ 8:52 |
| Bill Belichick | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Van Lathan | ▶ 42:56 | |
| Bruce Willis | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Die Hard, Pulp Fiction | ▶ 1:36:05 |
Writers Referenced (2)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Henry Bean | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Deep Cover | ▶ 22:15 |
| Cord Jefferson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | American Fiction | ▶ 1:02:13 |