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'Marathon Man' With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan

June 18, 2025 · Marathon Man (1976) · Crime · Drama · Thriller · 1:35:38 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsDustin HoffmanBob Evans got all his first choices - they went five for five with desired casting including Dustin Hoffman, Laurence Olivier, William Devane, and Roy Scheider. Mentioned Hoffman took the role partly because he heard Pacino wanted it.▶ 11:25
Chris RyanThere were some rumors about alternate casting possibilities if people said no, and John Schlesinger might have wanted different actors, but Evans ultimately got his first draft picks.▶ 11:38

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill Simmonsthe crazy car chase / Old Man Road Rage▶ 34:35

Overacting Award

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsElsa working for Zell the whole time and the farmhouse sequence - finds both elements weak and unnecessary▶ 58:04
Chris RyanThe childhood flashbacks - feels they don't add necessary information and take up too much time▶ 1:00:31

Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Bill SimmonsTwo-part take: If making this in 1976, it would be a better Harrison Ford part, but in 1984 this is an epic Tom Cruise part - 'the most cruisiest part that's not a cruise movie'▶ 1:03:40

Dion Waiters Award

Bill SimmonsMarc LawrenceMentions Shider but Chris Ryan says he's in too much▶ 1:07:50
Chris RyanLada Palfi Andor as Zell▶ 1:07:53

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsWilliam GoldmanHoffman - Kramer vs. Kramer; Scheider - Jaws; Devane - Bad News Bears and Breaking Training; Goldman - this movie (Marathon Man) because he has this and All the President's Men in 76; Marthe Keller - yes, this is her apex; Olivier - no way this is his apex▶ 1:14:12
Chris RyanDustin HoffmanHoffman - 1976 with Marathon Man and All the President's Men in one year; Scheider - Jaws; Marthe Keller - yes, this is her apex; Schlesinger - Midnight Cowboy because it won the Oscar▶ 1:14:14

Is This Movie Better With

Bill SimmonsStephen A. SmithStephen A. Smith (doing his Stephen A. impression with Christian Szell asking 'is it safe')▶ 1:21:51
Chris RyanSamuel L. JacksonSamuel L. Jackson (quoting his Pulp Fiction lines with 'is it safe')▶ 1:21:27
Craig HorlbeckSamuel L. JacksonSupports Samuel L. Jackson option by continuing the Pulp Fiction quote mashup▶ 1:21:32

Just One Oscar

Chris RyanConrad HallConrad Hall (cinematographer) - agrees with Bill's pick and provides supporting details about Hall's career and his extraordinary portrayal of New York City▶ 1:23:00

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsDon't trust the Nazis▶ 1:27:42
Chris RyanIf you kill the Nazi dentist, take his diamonds - you earned it▶ 1:27:46

Best Double Feature

Bill SimmonsThe Boys from BrazilBoys from Brazil paired with an Olivia film, Uncut Gems for diamond district theme, or Munich▶ 1:28:00

Who Won the Movie

Craig HorlbeckDiscussed enjoying the movie's structure and pacing but didn't give a specific 'Who Won the Movie' pick▶ 1:30:06

Movies Referenced (46)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
All the President's Men (1976)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 12:34
Jaws (1975)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 18:19
Miami Vice (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:06:18
Munich (2005)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 3:27
Bright (2017)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 22:31
Lincoln (2012)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:28:13
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 30:59
The Godfather (1972)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 11:01
Brazil (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 21:38
Psycho (1960)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 47:28
Reservoir Dogs (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Craig Horlbeck▶ 1:15:31
The Fountain (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 46:57

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
John SchlesingerIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsMidnight Cowboy, Darling, Marathon Man▶ 11:38
Bob FosseIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsAll That Jazz▶ 18:08
Jayson CluteIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanTitanic, American Psycho▶ 1:02:39
Tom BradyIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Hot Chick▶ 20:59

Actors Referenced (60)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
William DevaneIMDb ↗Lb ↗17Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Craig HorlbeckMarathon Man▶ 1:26
Dustin HoffmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗16Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Craig HorlbeckRain Man, Tootsie, Midnight Cowboy▶ 1:19
Roy ScheiderIMDb ↗Lb ↗13Bill Simmons, Chris RyanJaws, The French Connection, All That Jazz▶ 1:25
Ned BeattyIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Craig HorlbeckNetwork, Deliverance, Shooter▶ 16:29
Robert EvansIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsChinatown, Marathon Man▶ 9:06
Cali Swag DistrictIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Craig HorlbeckHorrible Bosses 2, Grown Ups 2▶ 3:05
Neil DiamondIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Craig Horlbeck▶ 21:46
Christoph WaltzIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsInglourious Basterds, Django Unchained▶ 3:54
Michael MadsenIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris RyanThe Hateful Eight, Kill Bill: Vol. 1, Species▶ 16:53
Paul JanewayIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsFifty Shades of Grey, Life of the Party▶ 45:35
Harrison FordIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsRaiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope, The Fugitive▶ 1:02:26
Richard BrightIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsThe Godfather Part III, The Godfather Part II, Once Upon a Time in America▶ 1:06:49

Writers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Robert TowneIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsChinatown, Mission: Impossible▶ 26:22
Vivian LeeIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 51:50
William ShakespeareIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 25:20

Cinematographers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Conrad HallIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 53:29
Jeff MartIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsProof of Life▶ 1:05:14
Michael GrantlandIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Other Guys▶ 33:52