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‘Mission: Impossible - Fallout’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck

December 27, 2022 · Mission: Impossible - Fallout (2018) · Action · Adventure · Thriller · 1:33:35 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Casting What-Ifs

Chris RyanMentions looking at younger actors to play Walker but notes they're all in Marvel movies, making them unavailable▶ 14:42

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes including fake CNN broadcast, skydiving scene, nightclub bathroom fight, Paris chase sequence, helicopter hijacking, and the ending action sequences▶ 31:57
Chris RyanDiscussed the skydiving scene with lightning and bathroom fights, noting how the lightning adds another layer to make the scene more compelling▶ 33:05
Craig HorlbeckThe roof run - calls it 'the greatest cruise run of his career'▶ 38:34

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsParis as a location, Ving Rhames, the theme song, the score by Lorne Balfe, and 'all the women' (Rebecca Ferguson, Michelle Monaghan, Vanessa Kirby)▶ 42:02
Chris RyanMovies that start with kidnapping nuclear weapon specialists, Tom Cruise's career defying aging expectations, Vanessa Kirby doing Vanessa Redgrave callbacks, nightclub within nightclub concept, and bongo drum sound drops▶ 44:15
Craig HorlbeckVanessa Kirby as a revelation in the movie▶ 47:32

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Bill SimmonsNothing because there's no food or drinks in this movie▶ 48:57
Chris RyanAgrees there's no eating in the movie, mentions Vanessa Kirby has a martini as pretty much the only example▶ 49:11

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Bill Simmonsthe giant nightclub▶ 51:02
Chris Ryanagrees with the nightclub but also likes the Jardin du Palais Royale garden where Ethan and Ilsa meet▶ 51:08

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Chris RyanAgrees Wes Bentley is problematic but acknowledges it creates unintentional comedy▶ 51:48
Craig HorlbeckSupports Wes Bentley criticism, calling the character interaction nonsensical▶ 52:20

Ron Burgundy Flute Award

Bill SimmonsThe speech scene - 'that speech is fucking terrible. That whole scene's awful.'▶ 53:24

Is There a Better Title?

Bill SimmonsThinks Fallout is plain and basic but admits they can't beat it, prefers Ghost Protocol as a title▶ 55:40
Chris RyanHalo Dive or Mission Impossible Missing Plutonium▶ 55:29
Craig HorlbeckNo better title - considers 'Detonation', 'Mission Impossible Missing Plutonium', and 'Mission Impossible Bioterror' but concludes nothing really works better than Fallout▶ 55:12

Best Quote

Chris RyanTwo quotes: 'I murder women and children with smallpox. I have no line.' and 'This is the CIA's mission. You use a scalpel. I prefer a hammer.' (Angela Bassett)▶ 57:33

Dion Waiters Award

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsHenry Cavill mustache controversy with Justice League, HALO jump technical details with Red weapon camera and IMAX lens, Simon Pegg quotes about Cruise's dangerous stunts, Cruise doing his own BMW driving stunts, Rebecca Ferguson being pregnant during filming▶ 1:08:07
Chris RyanCavill mustache situation with McQuarrie asking $3 million to shave it, Paris car chase inspired by 1970s short film 'Paris Rendezvous' available on YouTube▶ 1:08:11
Craig HorlbeckYouTube clip showing Cruise directing the cameraman mid-skydive during HALO jump sequence▶ 1:09:15

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsMission: ImpossibleMission Impossible 1 for franchise setup, this movie for Tom Cruise as insane person, skydiving stunt as craziest, bathroom fight scenes for this movie, John Wick for nightclub fights, First Blood for helicopter chases▶ 1:10:59
Chris RyanMission: ImpossibleMission Impossible 1 for the franchise, Superman for Henry Cavill, Collateral for nightclub fights, bathroom fight scenes for this movie, Shaun of the Dead/Hot Fuzz for Simon Pegg▶ 1:10:52
Craig HorlbeckDr. Rob Thorne for fake Tom Cruise names, questions whether skydiving is more impressive than Ghost Protocol building stunt▶ 1:11:48

Racehorse Name Award

Bill SimmonsSuggested 'Apostle', 'The Syndicate', and 'Missing Plutonium' as potential racehorse names▶ 1:14:52

Sequel/Prequel/Limited Series/Remake

Bill SimmonsThere will be a sequel in 2023, the final two films that will end Ethan Hunt's story with Cruise dying in outer space trying to find Mars▶ 1:21:36
Chris RyanCritiqued potential sequel titles, suggesting 'the destruction of the current world order' is not catchy enough▶ 1:21:21
Craig HorlbeckExpressed disinterest in potential sequel concepts, saying he would 'close tab' on titles like 'peace requires great suffering'▶ 1:21:26

Is This Movie Better With

Bill SimmonsLists the utility players: Wayne Jenkins, Daniel Treo, Katherine Hahn, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, JT Walsh▶ 1:21:52
Chris RyanJon BernthalJon Bernthal (Wayne Jenkins) instead of Wes Bentley - says it would be 10 times better as the disgruntled ex-husband▶ 1:22:18
Craig HorlbeckMakes comments about the ex-husband character but doesn't clearly state a preference for utility player replacement▶ 1:22:24

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsSuggested cities with hills and water are best - mentioned San Francisco, some European cities, LA/PCH route to Santa Monica Pier then Venice, and Paris for motorcycle chases▶ 1:24:24
Chris RyanPosed the question about best car chase cities, mentioned Chicago as pretty good, referenced Blues Brothers▶ 1:24:09

Best Double Feature

Bill SimmonsJohn Wick: Chapter 2John Wick Chapter 2 or Top Gun: Maverick - favors Wick 2 as the only thing challenging Mission Impossible in stunt coordination▶ 1:25:45
Craig HorlbeckJohn Wick: Chapter 2Disagrees with John Wick 2 pairing - doesn't think Wick is close to Mission Impossible▶ 1:25:57

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsStay vigilant and read the tea leaves - when your wife clearly knows more than she's letting on about mysterious situations▶ 1:30:27
Craig HorlbeckGreat suffering brings great peace (from the manifesto)▶ 1:30:07

Who Won the Movie

Movies Referenced (44)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Top Gun (1986)IMDb ↗Lb ↗15Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Craig Horlbeck▶ 13:49
Superman (2025)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Chris Ryan, Craig Horlbeck, Bill Simmons▶ 19:23
The Rock (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 20:48
Eyes Wide Shut (1999)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 9:08
Justice League (2017)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 1:08:11
Alien (1979)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 4:35
All the Right Moves (1983)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 13:34
Extraction (2020)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan▶ 34:39
Fargo (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 30:35
Fast Five (2011)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:31:54
Moon (2009)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 22:32
Rain Man (1988)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan▶ 16:03

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Wade EastwoodIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris RyanMission: Impossible - Fallout▶ 17:33
Martin ScorseseIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanTaxi Driver, Killers of the Flower Moon, Mean Streets▶ 20:04
Paul BellanyIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Craig HorlbeckStardust▶ 0:00
Sam MendesIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Craig Horlbeck1917, Road to Perdition▶ 5:20

Actors Referenced (43)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Tom CruiseIMDb ↗Lb ↗83Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Craig HorlbeckTop Gun, Minority Report▶ 4:20
Henry CavillIMDb ↗Lb ↗20Craig Horlbeck, Bill Simmons, Chris RyanMan of Steel, Justice League▶ 8:54
Alec BaldwinIMDb ↗Lb ↗12Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Craig HorlbeckThe Departed, It's Complicated, Glengarry Glen Ross▶ 29:44
Sean HarrisIMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill Simmons, Chris RyanMission: Impossible - Rogue Nation, Mission: Impossible - Fallout▶ 29:40
Ving RhamesIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Craig HorlbeckPulp Fiction, Bringing Out the Dead▶ 42:07
LeBron JamesIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Craig Horlbeck▶ 13:19
Michelle MonaghanIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Craig Horlbeck, Chris RyanGone Baby Gone, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang▶ 47:43
Philip Seymour HoffmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 9:40
Wes BentleyIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Craig HorlbeckAmerican Beauty, The Hunger Games, Interstellar▶ 51:47
Angela BassettIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris RyanBlack Panther▶ 56:04
Ewan McGregorIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill SimmonsTrainspotting▶ 1:07:52
Joaquin PhoenixIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris RyanWalk the Line, Gladiator▶ 29:09

Writers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Christopher McQuarrieIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Craig HorlbeckThe Usual Suspects, Mission: Impossible - Fallout▶ 18:47
James CameronIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanAvatar, Aliens, Terminator 2: Judgment Day▶ 33:53
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 29:24