'Ocean’s 11' With Chris Ryan, Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Amanda Dobbins
June 7, 2018 · Ocean's Eleven (2001) · Crime · Thriller · 1:04:16 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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Casting What-Ifs
Amanda DobbinsBruce Willis — Wilson brothers would have changed the vibe and been too pretentious/twee; against Johnny Depp generally; prefers Bruce Willis didn't get Danny Ocean role so he could cameo in Ocean's 12▶ 13:31
Chris RyanLuke Wilson — Discussed multiple what-ifs including Luke/Owen Wilson as Malloy brothers, Ralph Fiennes as Terry Benedict, Alan Arkin as Saul, and was against Johnny Depp as Linus▶ 13:09
Sean FennesseyOwen Wilson — Wilson brothers casting would have been the only acceptable what-if change; skeptical of Coen brothers rumor; was a Johnny Depp fan in 2000 but agrees wrong fit for this movie▶ 15:10
Most Rewatchable Scene
Amanda DobbinsMultiple scenes including Danny and Tess dinner scene, House Always Wins speech, and Linus doing recon ending with Julia Roberts' entrance▶ 22:08
Sean FennesseyAppreciates Bernie Mac scenes throughout, particularly his van dealership encounter and showdown with Linus▶ 24:08
Half-Assed Internet Research
Amanda DobbinsResponded to black and white trivia discussing how color pops are important to the film and how black and white would have hurt mainstream appeal and changed celebrity commentary▶ 32:10
Chris RyanShared multiple trivia facts: film considered for black and white, code names explained (Boski=Ivan Boski Wall Street fraudster referencing Reiner's con man Saul, Jim Brown=Bernie Mac bit, Miss Daisy=getaway vehicle, two Jethros=Molloys, Leon Spinks=boxing match reference, Ella Fitzgerald=videotaped robbery referencing Memorex commercial), Julia Roberts making $20M per movie when Clooney sent script with $20 bill, Don Cheadle's behind-the-scenes billing issues▶ 32:03
Sean FennesseyAdded context about Don Cheadle being unbilled in the first film but getting proper billing alongside Damon, Clooney and Pitt in sequels, noting the significance as one of only two black actors in the film▶ 34:20
Apex Mountain
Amanda DobbinsBrad Pitt — Yes for Brad Pitt, yes for Clooney, no for Matt Damon (mentions Good Will Hunting and The Martian as contenders), Ocean's Eleven for Soderbergh▶ 39:28
Chris RyanBrad Pitt — Yes for Brad Pitt, split vote between Out of Sight and Ocean's Eleven for Clooney, no for Matt Damon, Out of Sight for Soderbergh▶ 39:12
Sean FennesseyBrad Pitt — Yes for Brad Pitt, yes for Clooney, no for Matt Damon, not Ocean's Eleven for Soderbergh (prefers The Limey)▶ 39:25
Picking Nits
Amanda DobbinsRebuilt vault appears to be only 300 feet from actual Bellagio which is unrealistic; casinos wouldn't call SWAT team, they have their own security; only three security guys manning cameras, vault, and calls is insufficient▶ 49:26
Chris RyanNever completely understood how the heist worked; heist depends on too many precise elements like Matt Damon pickpocketing Terry Benedict and the specific bouncer beating up Clooney for 30-40 minutes; security system entrusted to one British guy is unrealistic; modern Vegas security would make this impossible▶ 48:51
Sean FennesseyMovie doesn't happen if casinos didn't allow filming inside, so vault security can't be realistic; money would be dispersed quickly to multiple locations; Lyman Zerga getting extensive time with casino owner despite no credentials is unlikely given Terry Benedict's precision▶ 52:58
Best Quote
Amanda DobbinsGeorge Clooney and Julia Roberts exchange: 'You're a thief and a liar. I only lied about being a thief...' and 'You think we need one more?'▶ 55:59
Chris RyanMultiple quotes: 'Danny, does he make you laugh? Tess, he doesn't make me cry.', the house always wins speech, Ruben's Benedict warning, and desert quote▶ 55:54
Sean FennesseyRusty and bartender exchange: 'How's the game going?' 'Longest hour of my life.' 'What?' 'I'm running away with your wife.' 'Great.'▶ 57:41
Who Won the Movie
Amanda DobbinsBrad Pitt — Brad Pitt - called him effervescent, understated, perfect, and noted this role was good for his legend▶ 1:01:45
Chris RyanBrad Pitt — Brad Pitt - praised him as an astonishing sidekick who won the movie easily▶ 1:01:40
Sean FennesseyGeorge Clooney — George Clooney - argued this was his biggest hit and only real franchise, and the movie doesn't work without him at the center▶ 1:02:49
Movies Referenced (32)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Casino (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 13 | Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins | ▶ 25:29 |
| Out of Sight (1998) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 10 | Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins | ▶ 2:45 |
| Ocean's Twelve (2004) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Amanda Dobbins, Chris Ryan | ▶ 2:23 |
| Smile (2022) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Amanda Dobbins | ▶ 35:56 |
| Chef (2014) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Amanda Dobbins | ▶ 31:22 |
| Good Time (2017) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 10:14 |
| In Bruges (2008) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 16:07 |
| The Perfect Storm (2000) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 3:19 |
| All the Pretty Horses (2000) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 3:41 |
| Batman (1989) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Sean Fennessey | ▶ 1:03:04 |
| Dead Man (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Amanda Dobbins | ▶ 0:41 |
| Dogma (1999) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 3:41 |
Directors Referenced (5)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| George Clooney | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 48 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins, Sean Fennessey | The Ides of March, Michael Clayton | ▶ 1:26 |
| Steven Soderbergh | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 16 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 1:19 | |
| Terry Benedict | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 15 | Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins | Hacksaw Ridge, The Terminator | ▶ 1:53 |
| David West | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 14:22 | |
| Scott Conn | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Predators, Machete | ▶ 35:07 |
Actors Referenced (46)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brad Pitt | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 38 | Amanda Dobbins, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | Fight Club, 12 Monkeys, Mr. & Mrs. Smith | ▶ 3:10 |
| Julia Roberts | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 22 | Amanda Dobbins, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey | Pretty Woman, My Best Friend's Wedding | ▶ 1:53 |
| Matt Damon | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 16 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins, Sean Fennessey | Good Will Hunting, The Martian, The Departed | ▶ 1:26 |
| Bernie Mac | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins | Ocean's Eleven | ▶ 24:08 |
| Johnny Depp | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins | ▶ 17:10 | |
| Topher Grace | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins, Sean Fennessey | In Good Company, Spider-Man 3 | ▶ 7:09 |
| Casey Affleck | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins | Manchester by the Sea, Light of My Life | ▶ 13:17 |
| Don Cheadle | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins | Crash | ▶ 1:26 |
| Owen Wilson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Amanda Dobbins, Chris Ryan | The Royal Tenenbaums, Wedding Crashers | ▶ 13:17 |
| Bruce Willis | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Amanda Dobbins | Die Hard, Pulp Fiction | ▶ 18:29 |
| Andy Garcia | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan | Ocean's Eleven, The Godfather Part III | ▶ 41:33 |
| Frank Sinatra | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Chris Ryan, Amanda Dobbins | From Here to Eternity | ▶ 1:26 |
Writers Referenced (1)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ethan Coen | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Inside Llewyn Davis, A Serious Man | ▶ 15:28 |