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‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

September 22, 2020 · Se7en (1995) · Crime · Drama · Mystery · 1:29:06 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Sequel/Prequel/Limited Series/Remake

Chris RyanSeven-episode limited series, citing the influence of Seven on True Detective▶ 15:14

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes including the Tuesday library research scene with opera music, the dinner scene at Mills' apartment, the SWAT raid, the car ride with John Doe, and the ending - ultimately settles on the car ride as his pick▶ 36:49
Chris RyanThe ending scene with the box reveal and helicopter overhead shot▶ 40:21
Sean FennesseyThe car ride scene with John Doe's performance and voice modulation▶ 41:31

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsThe credits sequence designed to look like a serial killer made them, the seven deadly sins concept as the killer's strategy, the unnamed city setting that feels like hell, not showing Gwyneth's head in the box, and Brad Pitt's facial expression when he realizes what's in the box▶ 47:52
Chris RyanThe incredible credit sequence that immediately establishes the grotesque world, Brad Pitt's character hating reading and needing CliffsNotes, and Fincher's sound design making the city feel authentically scary with constant urban noise▶ 48:32
Sean FennesseyThe Somerset character as God's loneliest man - a cynical detective who lives alone and needs a metronome to sleep, and the industrial/S&M music of the era including Nine Inch Nails that perfectly captured the dark tone▶ 53:35

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsVal KilmerPresents the casting what-ifs but focuses positively on Val Kilmer as John Doe: 'That would have been fucking awesome. He could have done it.' Dismisses Stallone as Mills and questions credibility of some casting rumors.▶ 1:01:56
Chris RyanSylvester StalloneDismissive of Stallone casting claim, suggesting 'Sly Stallone has been going into Wikipedia pages and adding his name' to movies he wasn't really considered for▶ 1:00:48
Sean FennesseyVal KilmerSkeptical of Stallone casting rumor calling it 'half-assed' and questions his involvement in prestige dramas. Enthusiastic about Val Kilmer as John Doe doing it 'as Doc Hollywood'▶ 1:01:04

Joey Pants Award

Dion Waiters Award

Chris RyanKevin SpaceyAgreed Spacey might be the dictionary definition but didn't state a clear preference▶ 1:05:22
Sean FennesseyListed multiple contenders including Richard Schiff (asshole lawyer), Roundtree (press conference scene), Reggie/Kathy (coroner report), and Gwyneth Paltrow, but didn't make a definitive pick▶ 1:05:32

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsPresents multiple trivia facts: Brad Pitt's real injury, John Doe's books cost $15,000 and took 2 months, diner location shared with Training Day, Gwyneth's face appears briefly before gunshot, skinny actor Michael Reed McKay weighed 98 pounds▶ 1:07:33
Chris RyanConnects Gwyneth's brief appearance to Fight Club's cigarette burn technique, calling Gwyneth 'like a cigarette burn'▶ 1:08:28

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsMorgan FreemanMorgan Freeman - Yes, after Seven (not Shawshank). Had the most juice after this movie which paved the way for giant paychecks▶ 1:09:47
Chris RyanMorgan FreemanExpressed doubt about Freeman's 1989 being Apex Mountain, suggested the moment before Robin Hood as potential peak▶ 1:10:18
Sean FennesseyMade joking responses about decapitations (French Revolution) and deadly sins (Dante) but no serious picks for actors▶ 1:11:44

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsJust because the fucker has a library card doesn't make him Yoda▶ 1:20:56
Chris RyanMaybe you guys want to cross your fingers somewhere else (fingerprint guy)▶ 1:21:04

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsMultiple questions: favorite deadly sin (envy), can you chew your own tongue off, did the dog die, what does Somerset do in next 24 hours▶ 1:23:31
Chris RyanDeadly sin discussion participant, believes dogs weren't killed but probably neglected▶ 1:23:37
Sean FennesseyCannot answer the tongue question - not in field of study▶ 1:24:27

Who Won the Movie

Chris RyanDavid FincherFincher, but Freeman almost shares it with him due to his excellent performance as a guide through the world▶ 1:25:42

Movies Referenced (57)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Fight Club (1999)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey▶ 1:08:28
Alien (1979)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan▶ 11:34
Casino (1995)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 4:44
The Killer (2023)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 9:01
True Romance (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 10:45
Zodiac (2007)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 3:33
Unforgiven (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 31:10
Apollo 13 (1995)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 5:36
Braveheart (1995)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 22:41
Goodfellas (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 23:33
Killing Them Softly (2012)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey▶ 29:09
Legends of the Fall (1994)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 11:18

Directors Referenced (6)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Mel GibsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsBraveheart, Lethal Weapon 3, Conspiracy Theory▶ 22:59
Michael MannIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsThe Insider, Collateral, The Last of the Mohicans▶ 3:43
Chris NoonanIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 22:59
Jeremiah S. ChechikIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsNational Lampoon's Christmas Vacation▶ 1:02:29
Michael RadfordIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 23:04
Mike FiggisIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsLeaving Las Vegas▶ 23:04

Actors Referenced (42)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Brad PittIMDb ↗Lb ↗41Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanFight Club, 12 Monkeys, Mr. & Mrs. Smith▶ 2:38
Morgan FreemanIMDb ↗Lb ↗24Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons, Chris RyanSe7en, Driving Miss Daisy, Million Dollar Baby▶ 2:40
Kevin SpaceyIMDb ↗Lb ↗22Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanL.A. Confidential, The Usual Suspects, American Beauty▶ 4:51
Gwyneth PaltrowIMDb ↗Lb ↗21Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyShakespeare in Love▶ 2:41
John DoeIMDb ↗Lb ↗19Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanRoad House▶ 7:51
Leland OrserIMDb ↗Lb ↗8Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanTaken, Se7en▶ 16:37
Richard RoundtreeIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Sean Fennessey▶ 1:05:40
Sigourney WeaverIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyAvatar, Alien▶ 10:30
Val KilmerIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsThe Doors, The Saint, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang▶ 1:01:53
Billy Bob ThorntonIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsSling Blade▶ 5:29
Denzel WashingtonIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:00:20
Heartless BastardsIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsSafe Haven▶ 29:04

Writers Referenced (2)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Andrew Kevin WalkerIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris RyanThe Killer, Se7en▶ 33:32
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 35:51

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Michael ReedIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsOn Her Majesty's Secret Service▶ 1:08:49