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‘Teen Wolf’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

August 6, 2020 · Teen Wolf (1985) · Comedy · Fantasy · Romance · 1:27:16 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsSix scenes: 1) Scott buying beer with red eyes + Stiles van surfing, 2) Scott turning into wolf at home with dad reveal, 3) Teen Wolf's first basketball game transformation and aftermath, 4) Coach Finstock's locker room speech with three rules, 5) Prom scene with Scott getting sucker punched, 6) Final basketball game▶ 25:01
Kyle BrandtAgrees with and enthusiastically discusses SPEAKER_00's picks, particularly praising the Stiles scenes and Coach Finstock's dialogue, but doesn't offer additional specific scenes▶ 26:26

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsBad basketball edits, wolf special effects, ages of lead actors looking too old for high school, lack of Black representation except for stereotypical breakdancing scene, unclear party scene activities, 80s trope of choosing plain girl over hot girl, and inappropriate suicide-themed song lyrics in 'Win in the End'▶ 45:13
Kyle BrandtWolf transformation scene ripping off The Terminator, actors looking too old for high school roles, problematic breakdancing scene with only Black character, and terrible soundtrack lacking quality 80s music compared to other films of the era▶ 45:52

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsJames HamptonJames Hampton (who played Mr. Howard) originally read for Coach Finstock but Fox suggested he read for the father role instead▶ 52:48

Joey Pants Award

Bill SimmonsJames HamptonThe guy who played Professor Nicholson on 90210 (initially suggested as dark horse pick, then agreed to give it to Chubby after SPEAKER_01's counter-argument)▶ 53:38
Kyle BrandtMark HoltonChubby (Francis Buxton from Pee Wee's Big Adventure and the 'Enrico Palazzo' guy from The Naked Gun)▶ 53:59

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsShared multiple trivia facts including Michael J. Fox's body double Jeff Glosser, conflicting reports about Fox hating the movie, Mike Piazza internet hoax, Jerry Levine getting recognized as Styles, Mark Arnold's soap opera contract, Fox's jersey selling for $30,000, Playboy playmate in party scene, scrapped Johnny Carson scene, and Styles' five t-shirt slogans▶ 58:20
Kyle BrandtAdded details about Jeff Glosser being from Loyola Marymount during pre-Hank Gathers era, compared the Mike Piazza hoax to other celebrity urban legends like Paul from Wonder Years being Marilyn Manson▶ 58:29

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsDoug SavantApex mountain for every other cast member except Doug Savant (Melrose Place/Desperate Housewives), van surfing, and werewolves (early 1980s run including Thriller video)▶ 1:02:41
Kyle BrandtTwilightTwilight series for werewolves, countering the early 1980s argument▶ 1:04:20

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsMick saying 'I've handled your kind before. Your mama used to steal chickens out of the backyard until I blew her head off with a shotgun.'▶ 1:12:21
Kyle BrandtThe same Mick quote - calls it 'an all-time antagonizing line' and 'a really incendiary piece of dialogue'▶ 1:12:37

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsWhere does werewolf hair go during transformations; doesn't think Mick shot Scott's mom because werewolf gene comes from dad's side; Teen Wolf transformation would be biggest sports movie moment ever; Baron Davis and Russ Westbrook resemble Teen Wolf's game; would use Teen Wolf like Gilbert Arenas as hybrid point guard on all-time movie team▶ 1:16:36
Kyle BrandtWhat happens to the Beavers after the regional final; where does the hair go during werewolf transformations; whether Mick shot Scott's mom; Teen Wolf would be the biggest 'what the fuck' sports movie moment; Russ Westbrook most resembles Teen Wolf's playing style; Teen Wolf belongs on all-time movie basketball starting five as hybrid guard▶ 1:14:42

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsJerry LevineAgrees with Jerry Levine/Styles, citing that a Tampa Bay player switching his first name to Styles cemented it▶ 1:25:27
Kyle BrandtJerry LevineJerry Levine as Styles - the classy, wacky best friend with a heart who everyone remembers▶ 1:25:09

Movies Referenced (37)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Back to the Future (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗12Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 7:22
Can't Buy Me Love (1987)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 37:05
Twilight (2008)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 1:04:31
Rocky IV (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 18:23
Weird Science (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons▶ 37:08
2012 (2009)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 58:59
Just One of the Guys (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 17:14
Moon (2009)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons▶ 28:50
New Year's Eve (2011)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 35:55
Sucker Punch (2011)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 33:03
Top Gun (1986)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 19:52
American History X (1998)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Kyle Brandt▶ 15:44

Directors Referenced (7)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Billy BlanksIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Kyle Brandt, Bill SimmonsThe Last Boy Scout, Jack and Jill, Kiss the Girls▶ 31:11
Paul Thomas AndersonIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtPunch-Drunk Love, Licorice Pizza, There Will Be Blood▶ 40:32
Rod DanielIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsTeen Wolf▶ 10:46
Baron DavisIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThat's My Boy▶ 1:20:41
Jarrod AlliesIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:19:29
Steve NashIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 5:31
Steven SpielbergIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Kyle BrandtSchindler's List, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Saving Private Ryan▶ 1:02:28

Actors Referenced (61)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Michael J. FoxIMDb ↗Lb ↗34Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtBack to the Future, Back to the Future Part II▶ 0:34
Mark ArnoldIMDb ↗Lb ↗8Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtTeen Wolf, Blade Runner 2049▶ 18:08
Kobe BryantIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtDaddy's Home▶ 1:52
Jerry LevineIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtTeen Wolf, Born on the Fourth of July, Wag the Dog▶ 46:23
Eric StoltzIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Kyle BrandtPulp Fiction, The Butterfly Effect▶ 57:50
Doug SavantIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 10:16
Kelly PrestonIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtThe Cat in the Hat, Sky High▶ 13:11
MelroseIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 10:16
Bernard KingIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 1:22:44
Bobby KnightIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtAnger Management, Blue Chips, Hoop Dreams▶ 32:45
Ed McMahonIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 15:51
Huey LewisIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Kyle Brandt, Bill SimmonsBack to the Future▶ 59:58

Writers Referenced (2)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Stiles WhiteIMDb ↗Lb ↗17Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 25:38
Preston ShuttlesworthIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Kyle BrandtCivil War▶ 1:22:09