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The Re-‘Den of Thieves’ LIVE With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

January 7, 2025 · Den of Thieves (2018) · Action · Crime · Drama · 1:38:30 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill Simmons▶ 28:23donut store robbery

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Bill Simmons▶ 55:36drinking milk right from the carton at six in the morning
Chris Ryan▶ 55:41Bloody Donuts and Deb's New Man's House Dinner
Van Lathan▶ 55:52the skirt steak

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill Simmons▶ 56:07The highway shootout scene with 50 cars between the robbers and cops, where police turn a traffic standstill into a shootout

Overacting Award

Bill Simmons▶ 59:08Gerard Butler
Chris Ryan▶ 59:17Gerard Butler — Agrees Butler wins due to his drunk scene and hungover scene performances
Van Lathan▶ 59:23Gerard Butler — Agrees Butler has the 'triple crown' of emotional scenes including crying

Is There a Better Title?

Bill Simmons▶ 59:33No, there isn't a better title
Chris Ryan▶ 59:38Den of Thieves is sick (likes the current title)

Dion Waiters Award

Bill Simmons▶ 1:06:06The two ladies ordering the Chinese food
Van Lathan▶ 1:06:24Discussed FBI guys and tennis guy as possibilities but noted the small cast makes it difficult

Hanks or Cruise

Bill Simmons▶ 1:18:35Tom Hanks — Hanks - 'You give me a binary choice of Cruise or Hanks. I'm telling you it's Hanks.'
Van Lathan▶ 1:18:45Tom Cruise — Seems to prefer Cruise, noting 'Cruise has played more roles like this before' and wanting to see 'Cruise trying to play Big Nick'

Is This Movie Better With

Bill Simmons▶ 1:27:41Big Nick — No to Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trejo, Sam Jackson, Byron Mayo, Harley Mays, Long Legs, or Philip Baker Hall. Yes to adding Big Nick to the category
Chris Ryan▶ 1:27:51Big Nick — Agrees to replace Philip Baker Hall with Big Nick in the category

Just One Oscar

Bill Simmons▶ 1:28:57Christian Bale — Initially suggests Christian Bale because he's present, then agrees with other suggestions
Chris Ryan▶ 1:29:14Pablo Schreiber — Pablo (if not Christian Bale)
Van Lathan▶ 1:29:02Christian Bale — Script (Christian Bale wrote it)

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill Simmons▶ 1:29:28Worst job for armored truck people is sitting in the back inside because that guy always gets blown up if anything bad happens
Chris Ryan▶ 1:29:38What's a medium bad day for an armored truck guy - like the donut store is closed, since good day is nothing happened and bad day is Den of Thieves/Heat scenarios
Van Lathan▶ 1:30:05What kind of people are the armored car people, because in movies they always fight to protect the money instead of just giving it up like a normal person would

Best Double Feature

Bill Simmons▶ 1:33:35Den of Thieves: Pantera — Dead of Thieves 2, Pantera
Van Lathan▶ 1:33:37Den of Thieves: Pantera — Dead of Thieves 2, Pantera (agreed with Bill's suggestion)

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill Simmons▶ 1:34:25Never underestimate a bartender

Who Won the Movie

Bill Simmons▶ 1:36:07Christian Gudegast — Christian (for shepherding the project for 15 years) or Pablo Schreiber (for his performance that could have led to more action franchises)
Chris Ryan▶ 1:36:10Christian Gudegast — Christian (agreed he shepherded the project from early 2000s to screen)
Van Lathan▶ 1:36:30The movie won the movie (because it exceeded expectations and everyone loved it)

Movies Referenced (31)

Heat (1995)

22 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 9:54IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Boogie Nights (1997)

6 mentions · Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 1:16:28IMDb ↗Lb ↗

The Town (2010)

6 mentions · Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 13:38IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Triple Frontier (2019)

4 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 11:33IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Collateral (2004)

3 mentions · Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 1:17:51IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Sicario (2015)

3 mentions · Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 52:24IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)

3 mentions · Van Lathan, Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 53:29IMDb ↗Lb ↗

The Breakfast Club (1985)

3 mentions · Van Lathan▶ 6:10IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Beverly Hills Cop II (1987)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 1:14:21IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Die Hard (1988)

2 mentions · Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 41:45IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Fargo (1996)

2 mentions · Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 1:06:32IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Fast Five (2011)

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 36:04IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Directors Referenced (2)

Tennis

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 52:55IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Boise Holmes

1 mentions · Van Lathan · Known for Greenland, Kiss the Girls▶ 22:33IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Actors Referenced (40)

Gerard Butler

14 mentions · Bill Simmons, Van Lathan · Known for Law Abiding Citizen, The Phantom of the Opera▶ 6:25IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Tom Cruise

10 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan · Known for Top Gun, Mission: Impossible II, Minority Report▶ 1:17:15IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Tom Hanks

10 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan · Known for Cast Away, Big, Forrest Gump▶ 1:16:51IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Pablo Schreiber

9 mentions · Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris Ryan · Known for 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi, Den of Thieves▶ 6:17IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Vincent Hanna

8 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 14:14IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Poly Styrene

6 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan · Known for Sid and Nancy▶ 21:17IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Dave Chappelle

5 mentions · Bill Simmons, Van Lathan · Known for A Star Is Born▶ 1:08:38IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Sean Fenton

5 mentions · Van Lathan, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan · Known for Intolerable Cruelty▶ 2:55IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Tony Romo

4 mentions · Bill Simmons, Van Lathan · Known for Trainwreck▶ 51:59IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Vanessa Alameda

4 mentions · Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan · Known for The Dark Knight Rises▶ 17:10IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Beatrice Straight

2 mentions · Van Lathan · Known for Network, Poltergeist▶ 1:15:50IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Bill Russell

2 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 54:49IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Writers Referenced (3)

Roger Ebert

6 mentions · Bill Simmons▶ 25:43IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Taylor Sheridan

2 mentions · Van Lathan · Known for Hell or High Water, Wind River▶ 1:12:31IMDb ↗Lb ↗

Michael Dinner

1 mentions · Chris Ryan▶ 55:41IMDb ↗Lb ↗