‘The Saint’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt
April 5, 2025 · The Saint (1997) · Action · Adventure · Romance · 1:40:02 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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What's Aged the Best
Kyle BrandtThe problematic on-set actor behavior - missing actors like Val Kilmer who would shove directors and bust up hotel rooms, finding that kind of difficult but talented artist persona 'cool'▶ 10:56
Most Rewatchable Scene
Bill SimmonsDiscussed multiple scenes including Moscow Microchip Heist, Long hair Val seduction scene, Dr. Emma Russell cold fusion explanation, mouse race club, and Emma confronting Simon, with particular enthusiasm for the cold fusion explanation scene▶ 41:12
Kyle BrandtLong hair Val seduction scene with Thomas Moore character - 'It's fantastic. It's why you watch this movie'▶ 43:03
Den of Thieves Benihana Award
Kyle BrandtEither the river or the rat race coke den with the prostitutes and mariachi band▶ 1:03:28
Butch's Girlfriend Award
Kyle BrandtVal Kilmer when he's not in costume - not charismatic, underplaying it, doing puppy dog love thing▶ 1:05:25
Casting What-Ifs
Bill SimmonsRalph Fiennes — Discussed Pierce Brosnan (mid-80s), Ralph Fiennes who was offered $1M but passed and criticized the genre, Mel Gibson who passed after Braveheart, Hugh Grant who didn't like director's approach, and questioned credibility of Schwarzenegger rumors▶ 1:11:01
Kyle BrandtRalph Fiennes — Criticized Ralph Fiennes for his dismissive comments about the genre, agreed Schwarzenegger wouldn't work due to accent issues, and discussed Tommy Flanagan (Scarface character) trivia▶ 1:11:58
Dion Waiters Award
Bill SimmonsEmily Mortimer — Emily Mortimer as the stewardess who flirts with Val Kilmer for 90 seconds▶ 1:14:31
Apex Mountain
Bill SimmonsNot Kilmer (1995 Batman/Heat was his peak), not Elizabeth Shue (she won an Oscar), possibly electronic music scene in the 90s, and definitively cold fusion▶ 1:20:27
Kyle BrandtVal Kilmer — Agrees Kilmer's apex was 1995 with Batman and Heat, notes his reputation was in the gutter during this movie▶ 1:20:31
Is This Movie Better With
Bill SimmonsPeter Schrager — Considered Peter Schrager fake laughing to a Mike Greenberg Jets joke in mid-October, but said he needs to workshop it for another month▶ 1:29:20
Kyle BrandtGus Johnson — Gus Johnson calling the scene where Elizabeth Shue warms up Val Kilmer with her body heat▶ 1:28:36
Probably Unanswerable Questions
Bill SimmonsHow long will Thomas and Emma's relationship last given their incompatible personalities and backgrounds; What are the global ramifications of Russia having cold fusion technology and becoming a superpower; How does the blade mechanism in Simon's boot actually work▶ 1:30:28
Kyle BrandtIs Thomas' seduction of Emma illegal/immoral since it's based on breaking and entering; Whether Emma and Thomas will stay together given the power/money dynamics; How the retractable blade mechanism in boots actually functions▶ 1:31:34
Coach Finstock Life Lesson
Bill SimmonsIf you have an idea that can save the world, don't put them in cocktail napkins in your bra, and change up your aliases - don't stick with one gimmick like Saint names▶ 1:35:15
Movies Referenced (63)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Batman (1989) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 17 | Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons | ▶ 4:11 |
| John Wick (2014) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 39:12 |
| The Artist (2011) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons | ▶ 19:12 |
| Top Gun (1986) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | ▶ 5:19 |
| Batman Forever (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 9:56 |
| Blade (1998) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | ▶ 43:34 |
| Taken 2 (2012) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 27:54 |
| Braveheart (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | ▶ 1:12:46 |
| Good Will Hunting (1997) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | ▶ 30:25 |
| Grease (1978) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:11:45 |
| Just One of the Guys (1985) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:38:27 |
| Lost in Space (1998) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | ▶ 22:47 |
Directors Referenced (6)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Joel Schumacher | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons | The Phantom of the Opera, 8MM | ▶ 11:16 |
| Mel Gibson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | Braveheart, Lethal Weapon 3, Conspiracy Theory | ▶ 1:12:40 |
| Paul Thomas Anderson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | Punch-Drunk Love, Licorice Pizza, There Will Be Blood | ▶ 25:12 |
| Tony Scott | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Kyle Brandt | Unstoppable, True Romance | ▶ 1:16:23 |
| John Frankenheimer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Seven Days in May | ▶ 11:39 |
| Warren Beatty | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Heaven Can Wait | ▶ 26:40 |
Actors Referenced (83)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Val Kilmer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 90 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | The Doors, The Saint, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang | ▶ 1:51 |
| Elisabeth Shue | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 15 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | Leaving Las Vegas, Adventures in Babysitting, The Saint | ▶ 2:21 |
| Russell Crowe | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind | ▶ 11:07 |
| Thomas Moore | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons | ▶ 19:12 | |
| Tom Cruise | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons | Top Gun, Minority Report | ▶ 3:32 |
| Jim Morrison | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons | Forrest Gump, The X Files | ▶ 7:03 |
| Matt Damon | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | Good Will Hunting, The Martian, The Departed | ▶ 15:46 |
| Doc Holliday | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Kyle Brandt | ▶ 6:01 | |
| Gene Siskel | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | ▶ 40:40 | |
| Nicole Kidman | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | ▶ 30:16 | |
| Ralph Fiennes | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | The Constant Gardener, Schindler's List, The Grand Budapest Hotel | ▶ 26:02 |
| Sneaker Pimps | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt | The Saint, Open Your Eyes | ▶ 1:03:38 |
Writers Referenced (5)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Roger Ebert | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 20:35 | |
| Daft Punk | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Saint | ▶ 31:45 |
| Judy Blume | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 47:17 | |
| Leslie Charteris | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Saint | ▶ 24:13 |
| Nicholas Sparks | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Kyle Brandt | Safe Haven | ▶ 52:36 |