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‘Cliffhanger’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

January 3, 2023 · Cliffhanger (1993) · Action · Adventure · Thriller · 1:38:26 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsAgrees about the haircut having had a moment (citing Demi Moore in A Few Good Men) but notes nobody would have that haircut now▶ 14:26
Kyle BrandtJanine Turner's haircut - calls it regrettable and notes she and Stallone have the exact same haircuts making them look like brother and sister▶ 13:57

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsMichael RookerAgrees that Rooker is exceptional in the movie and should be considered for who won▶ 15:27
Kyle BrandtMichael RookerMichael Rooker - 'It's kind of Rooker's movie' because Stallone is understated while Rooker goes for it in every scene▶ 15:51

Overacting Award

Bill SimmonsJohn LithgowLithgow is probably the best Rickman ripoff, with Tommy Lee Jones in Under Siege as competition - 'those two in the finals'▶ 18:46
Kyle BrandtJohn LithgowDiscusses Lithgow's dark villain performances and finds his contrived accent/voice convincing despite online criticism▶ 20:39

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsThe opening scene (greatest opening scene ever), the bad acting scene between Gabe and Jesse 8 months later, and the plane transfer scene▶ 26:39
Kyle BrandtAgrees with the opening scene and discusses the plane transfer scene, comparing the bad acting to soap opera dialogue▶ 27:00

Apex Mountain

Kyle BrandtCliffhangerStalactite deaths▶ 38:47

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Bill SimmonsStates there's no Big Kahuna Burger Award for this movie - it's a 'no food, no drink, nobody goes to the bathroom movie'▶ 49:38
Kyle BrandtTerrorists eating power bars in a warming hut - Pat tosses one to Leon who catches and eats it▶ 49:48

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Bill SimmonsThe beginning with Sly and that mountain▶ 50:07
Kyle BrandtThe first time you see Sly hanging on a cliff over the words cliffhanger▶ 50:14

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsThe compromised FBI agents - finds it implausible that highly vetted agents would throw away their careers after getting recruited by the villain▶ 50:43
Kyle BrandtAgrees with the FBI agent criticism, noting that extra team members always go rogue in action movies▶ 51:41

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsAgrees with the payment division concept, suggesting Lithgow and Travers split two-thirds while others get remaining third, with plan to eliminate partners for larger shares▶ 57:32
Kyle BrandtHow do terrorists divide up their payment percentages - suggesting a hierarchy where different roles get different cuts (5%, 30%, 20%, 8%, 2% etc.)▶ 57:07

Is There a Better Title?

Bill SimmonsNo, there is no better title▶ 59:11
Kyle BrandtNo better title - praises 'Cliffhanger' as literal and such a good title▶ 59:13

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsYou murdering motherfucker. Kill a few people. They call you a murderer. Kill a million. Kill a million. And you're a conqueror.▶ 59:45
Kyle BrandtGo figure. Move on, Tucker.▶ 59:54

Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Bill SimmonsJanine Turner was market corrected by Demi Moore - both started on General Hospital as sisters but Demi got all the roles that could have gone to Janine▶ 1:02:46
Kyle BrandtRooker's girlfriend wanted to die and rigged the equipment for suicide - it was an inside job because she was in an abusive relationship and deliberately let her hand slip from the glove▶ 1:01:41

Hall of Fame Plaque

Bill SimmonsZach Grenier (the guy whose name he didn't even look up)▶ 1:09:17

Casting What-Ifs

Kyle BrandtSandra BullockSandra Bullock in the romantic role, Wesley Snipes instead of Leon, Mel Gibson replacing Rooker▶ 1:10:56

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsShared extensive production trivia including: Carolco gave away distribution rights and barely profited from $255M box office, production shut down twice, went $40M over budget, Stallone's top 3 physical shape movies, $1M stunt world record, glove slip scene required oversized glove with Vaseline▶ 1:12:13
Kyle BrandtParticipated in trivia discussion by guessing Stallone's movies (Rocky IV, Rambo First Blood Part II), connected aerial stunt to Dark Knight Rises influence, made cultural observation about ill-fitting gloves referencing OJ trial▶ 1:13:00

Racehorse Name Award

Is This Movie Better With

Kyle BrandtPhilip Baker HallPhilip Baker Hall as Flight Gondoli, delivering a monologue about liking rescuing people, butter in his ass, watching people on film, lollipops, and rescuing hikers.▶ 1:25:50

Just One Oscar

Best Double Feature

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsDon't take your novice climber girlfriend up to the scariest mountain in the Colorado Rockies, especially if you have an old knee injury▶ 1:32:30

Movies Referenced (45)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Die Hard (1988)IMDb ↗Lb ↗17Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons▶ 11:58
The Rock (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 1:23:10
Rambo (2008)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons▶ 9:07
Rocky IV (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 6:20
A Few Good Men (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 14:31
Days of Thunder (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 14:58
Demolition Man (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Kyle Brandt▶ 37:44
First Blood (1982)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt▶ 1:13:10
True Romance (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons▶ 1:05:17
Fargo (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:00:11
Nope (2022)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 23:23
Scream (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Kyle Brandt▶ 5:39

Directors Referenced (6)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Mel GibsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Kyle BrandtBraveheart, Lethal Weapon 3, Conspiracy Theory▶ 15:40
John ColoradoIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsHancock▶ 1:30:56
Hugo CortinaIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsStarman▶ 1:13:36
John HughesIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsPlanes, Trains & Automobiles, Uncle Buck, The Breakfast Club▶ 21:41
Paul BellanyIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Kyle BrandtStardust▶ 0:00
Ridley ScottIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Martian, Blade Runner▶ 22:14

Actors Referenced (59)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Michael RookerIMDb ↗Lb ↗56Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtGuardians of the Galaxy▶ 4:13
Sylvester StalloneIMDb ↗Lb ↗53Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtRocky, Rocky IV, Creed▶ 2:53
John LithgowIMDb ↗Lb ↗25Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtThe World According to Garp, Cliffhanger▶ 18:10
Janine TurnerIMDb ↗Lb ↗18Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtCliffhanger▶ 6:03
Demi MooreIMDb ↗Lb ↗11Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtStriptease, Indecent Proposal▶ 14:28
David CarricoIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtThe Lone Ranger▶ 22:22
Wesley SnipesIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Kyle Brandt, Bill SimmonsBlade, New Jack City, Demolition Man▶ 16:12
Christopher WalkenIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtCatch Me If You Can, The Deer Hunter▶ 1:04:51
Philip Baker HallIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtMagnolia, Boogie Nights▶ 2:35
Sandra BullockIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Kyle Brandt, Bill SimmonsThe Proposal, Miss Congeniality, Speed▶ 1:04:06
Bruce WillisIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtDie Hard, Pulp Fiction▶ 38:31
Steven SeagalIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Kyle BrandtUnder Siege 2: Dark Territory▶ 2:31

Writers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Tommy LeeIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsVanilla Sky▶ 18:43
Julie SiegeIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 18:43
Scott FrostIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Kyle Brandt▶ 1:36:15

Cinematographers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Adam MacbethIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Kyle Brandt▶ 33:24
Jason GoodellIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:08:02
Nich MuscoIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Kyle Brandt▶ 16:39