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‘Escape From New York’ With Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, and Chris Ryan

April 29, 2020 · Escape from New York (1981) · Action · Adventure · Sci-Fi · 1:25:47 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsHow do people have electricity? What's the plumbing like? Where do they sleep? What was the Upper East Side like? Was Brooklyn involved at all?▶ 12:45
Chris RyanWhere did everybody in Manhattan go? Who's Fresno Bob? How did The Brain get his name?▶ 12:15
Shea SerranoAppreciates that the movie puts you in the world without explaining anything, like John Wick - you just have to experience it and see what happens▶ 13:17

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes: Snake getting pitched by Hawk (the briefing scene), Snake landing the plane on the Twin Towers, first Duke sighting with Snake driving through Broadway, Duke shooting at the president, and the finger/touch me he dies scene with Romero and Lee Van Cleef▶ 26:08

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsEvery character that says 'I heard you were dead' to Snake ends up dying in this movie - it's like the kiss of death, like the oranges in The Godfather▶ 42:23
Chris RyanThey shot this in East St. Louis▶ 39:21

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsHawk's cell phone - it's massively large, the size of his head, like holding a small car▶ 48:19
Chris RyanThe sound effects of the fistfights - they sound like kung fu movies▶ 48:52
Shea SerranoThe radar scene where the guy says 'he's in the building now' but the light doesn't move, just blinks▶ 49:03

Joey Pants Award

Dion Waiters Award

Bill SimmonsFrank DoubledayFrank Doubleday (winner), with other nominees being Adrienne Barbeau, Isaac Hayes, and Borg Nine▶ 53:49
Chris RyanFrank DoubledayDiscussed Borg Nine, Harry Dean Stanton, and Pleasance as strong candidates but acknowledged Frank Doubleday's dominance▶ 53:28
Shea SerranoFrank DoubledayFrank Doubleday - praised his range from terrifying to insecure to his unique death scene▶ 54:30

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsUncertain between late 80s period (Tango and Cash/Backdraft era) or when Escape from L.A. was made, noting Kurt Russell's career longevity makes it hard to pinpoint▶ 59:45
Chris RyanTango and Cash/Backdraft period - around late 80s/early 90s when he was his biggest star▶ 59:14
Shea SerranoAgrees with Tango and Cash/Backdraft era for peak stardom, but notes Escape from New York as when 'this guy is the fucking guy' retrospectively▶ 59:22

Picking Nits

Bill SimmonsMultiple nitpicks: Only one copy of the nuclear fusion tape exists, terrorists infiltrated as flight attendants with no background checks, Brain makes his own gas but can't quickly locate tall buildings in NYC, escape pod logistics don't make sense, 24-hour exploding capsule technology seems impossible, daylight/nighttime continuity issues, and how Cabby ended up trading for the tape is unclear▶ 1:01:01
Chris RyanBrain can make his own gas but takes 10 minutes to figure out where tall buildings are in NYC, escape pod should have accommodated multiple people or Secret Service, and questions about the infrastructure and services Duke provides to maintain loyalty▶ 1:01:59
Shea SerranoRomero should have been allowed to watch the gladiator fight instead of having to stay with the president, and questions the dissolving capsule technology versus just making it explode at a set time▶ 1:03:42

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsI thought you were dead and touch me dies - mentions multiple good one-liners throughout▶ 1:07:51
Chris RyanListen to me, Hawk. The president is dead. You got that. Somebody's had him for dinner.▶ 1:08:04
Shea SerranoYou're a number one▶ 1:08:13

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsKurt RussellKurt Russell, with additional wins for Romero and Carpenter▶ 1:16:14
Shea SerranoKurt RussellAgreed on Kurt Russell, noting there's no current equivalent to Kurt Russell and that Kurt Russell remains Kurt Russell▶ 1:16:56

Movies Referenced (33)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Gladiator (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan▶ 34:31
Halloween (1978)IMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 5:43
Big Trouble in Little China (1986)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Chris Ryan, Shea Serrano▶ 21:01
The Island (2005)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan, Shea Serrano▶ 5:14
World Trade Center (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 30:08
Alien (1979)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan▶ 3:12
John Wick (2014)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan▶ 13:06
Nope (2022)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 14:04
Predator (1987)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Shea Serrano▶ 3:10
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano▶ 17:57
The Ring (2002)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 34:56
Air Force One (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 4:10

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
John CarpenterIMDb ↗Lb ↗25Bill Simmons, Kurt Russell, Chris RyanHalloween▶ 2:08
Clint EastwoodIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris RyanMillion Dollar Baby, Gran Torino, Unforgiven▶ 20:45
Howard HawksIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Kurt Russell, Bill Simmons▶ 43:02
Sergio LeoneIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsOnce Upon a Time in America, Once Upon a Time in the West▶ 27:30

Actors Referenced (31)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Adrienne BarbeauIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill SimmonsEscape from New York▶ 37:00
Frank DoubledayIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Shea SerranoEscape from New York, Broadcast News▶ 52:22
Charles BronsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris RyanDeath Wish, Once Upon a Time in the West, The Great Escape▶ 21:19
Lee Van CleefIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsEscape from New York▶ 27:27
Ox BakerIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsEscape from New York▶ 35:04
Sean ConneryIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Kurt RussellDr. No, The Untouchables, The Rock▶ 1:22:33
Steve BuscemiIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris RyanFargo, Reservoir Dogs▶ 41:16
Vincent HannaIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons▶ 52:15
David BowieIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsThe Prestige▶ 41:16
Ernest BorgnineIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsEscape from New York▶ 12:36
Goldie HawnIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsPrivate Benjamin▶ 58:28
Harry Dean StantonIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris RyanAlien, The Green Mile▶ 51:38

Writers Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
J.J. AbramsIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsStar Trek▶ 56:42
James CameronIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsAvatar, Aliens, Terminator 2: Judgment Day▶ 57:24
Nick CastleIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Last Starfighter▶ 57:53
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 17:55