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‘John Wick’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Shea Serrano

September 17, 2024 · John Wick (2014) · Action · Crime · Thriller · 1:48:56 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Would Roger Ebert Have Liked This Movie

Chris RyanHe would have liked it but found it mind-numbing and a little thin, wanting more character development for Helen▶ 34:17

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes including the gas station interaction, Vigo explaining John Wick (Baba Yaga scene), and the attack at Wick's house where John kills 12 guys▶ 37:08
Chris RyanAgrees with the Baba Yaga scene and highlights the attack at Wick's house, particularly the knife hammering moment▶ 40:28
Shea SerranoVigo explaining John Wick (the Baba Yaga scene) - calls it 'the best character introduction in an action movie'▶ 38:06

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Bill SimmonsThe nightclub (Continental)▶ 1:05:14

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Bill SimmonsThe cereal for Wick and the dog▶ 1:05:49

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsWhen they capture John Wick and don't kill him immediately - they have guns drawn on him after he's killed 50-60 of their people but decide to bring him to a remote location instead of just killing him▶ 1:07:19
Shea SerranoThe same issue as Bill - Vigo not killing John Wick when he has the chance, particularly when John is knocked unconscious twice in the movie, but explains it's due to Vigo's ego needing to give his speech▶ 1:08:48

What's Aged the Worst

Chris RyanThe multiple uses of Marilyn Manson throughout the movie▶ 1:11:26

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsMentions considering 'I'm thinking I'm back' but decides against putting it in this category▶ 1:14:50
Chris Ryan'I'm thinking I'm back' - argues it can be both the Rubinick and what's aged the best because it's dialing it up, not bad acting▶ 1:15:12
Shea SerranoHuman shield scenes/trope in movies - loves when bad guys grab people as human shields▶ 1:12:49

Best Quote

Bill Simmonspriceless, priceless▶ 1:15:16
Chris RyanReferences a quote as potentially the best but doesn't specify what it is, only calling it 'sick'▶ 1:15:13

Is There a Better Title?

Bill SimmonsNo, John Wick is better than the original title 'Scorn'▶ 1:15:44

Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Bill SimmonsVigo is right that John Wick's wife died due to karma - maybe don't kill 1,500 people and the karma wouldn't have ended up with your wife dying▶ 1:17:27
Chris RyanJohn Wick's reaction to the dog dying is a massive overreaction and deflection from his own boredom at suburban life - he had a void in his soul he was trying to fill▶ 1:19:14
Shea SerranoJohn Leguizamo should be in every movie for at least 90 minutes - every movie you can think of, put him in it and it's better▶ 1:16:36

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsIan McShaneIan McShane replaced Jason Isaacs as Winston - only casting what-if he could find▶ 1:20:26

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsExtensive research on Keanu's training (4 months, multiple martial arts, tactical gun training with SWAT/Navy SEALs, stunt driving), car details (1969 Boss 429 Mustang, only 1,359 made), production facts about fight scenes and injuries, and John Wick's total kill count of 84▶ 1:24:18
Chris RyanAlfie Allen went to Russian bathhouses to research his character Yosef, and the Red Circle nightclub is named after Jean-Pierre Melville's French crime film Le Cirque La Rouge▶ 1:24:59
Shea SerranoGuessed 112 for John Wick's total kill count (actual was 84, closer than Bill's guess of 67)▶ 1:27:08

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsThe MatrixMatrix for Keanu; Yes for Fake Hotel Universe; Tyra/Friday Night Lights for Adrian Palicki; Yes for Russian boogeymen; Yes for burying/digging up former career; Yes for John Wick movies▶ 1:27:27
Chris RyanThe MatrixMatrix for Keanu (agreed with Bill)▶ 1:27:28

Hanks or Cruise

Bill SimmonsTom CruiseCruise for John Wick role - references his performance in Collateral as evidence▶ 1:30:56
Chris RyanTom CruiseCruise - calls it an 'Easy Cruise win' and '100% Cruise'▶ 1:30:59

Is This Movie Better With

Chris RyanWayne Jenkins (performed an impression/dialogue as the character)▶ 1:39:41

Just One Oscar

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsWhy is John Wick a 6 a.m. guy when he's a retired hitman? Could a boogeyman hitman really find true love? Czechians are the scariest because UFC fighters from there are always badasses▶ 1:40:31
Chris RyanVigo's henchmen lack separation - it's basically just Kyrill and then everybody else, which would make ranking them difficult▶ 1:43:15
Shea SerranoAlbanians are number one in evil foreign mobster rankings - doesn't want to mess with the Albanians from Taken▶ 1:42:06

Best Double Feature

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsDon't fuck with another man's dog, car, or both▶ 1:44:58
Chris RyanIf you're a Russian mob boss, just let your kids know about the Bobby Yeager/John Wick - warn them never to fuck with this guy▶ 1:45:03

Who Won the Movie

Movies Referenced (46)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
The Matrix (1999)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan▶ 8:09
Point Break (1991)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Shea Serrano, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 5:27
Friday Night Lights (2004)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 31:49
The Equalizer (2014)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Shea Serrano, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 24:21
Die Hard (1988)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Shea Serrano, Bill Simmons▶ 15:48
Eastern Promises (2007)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Shea Serrano▶ 1:28:43
Fargo (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 53:57
Gladiator (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 34:45
Knock Knock (2015)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Shea Serrano▶ 51:10
Man on Fire (2004)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 24:22
Rebel Ridge (2024)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 18:12
Side Effects (2013)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2▶ 1:22

Directors Referenced (7)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Timothy NyquistIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons▶ 1:02:44
John WooIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano▶ 32:42
Kosta JokicIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:42:50
Baz LuhrmannIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Shea SerranoThe Great Gatsby▶ 1:17:48
Chad StahelskiIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsJohn Wick▶ 1:26:31
Clint EastwoodIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsMillion Dollar Baby, Gran Torino, Unforgiven▶ 32:33
Tom BradyIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Hot Chick▶ 41:28

Actors Referenced (53)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Keanu ReevesIMDb ↗Lb ↗39Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Shea SerranoThe Matrix, Speed, Point Break▶ 4:24
John LeguizamoIMDb ↗Lb ↗12Shea Serrano, Bill Simmons▶ 31:59
Adrianne PalickiIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Shea SerranoJohn Wick▶ 54:52
Tom CruiseIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris RyanTop Gun, Minority Report▶ 10:25
Dean WintersIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill SimmonsJohn Wick▶ 32:17
Alfie AllenIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris RyanJohn Wick▶ 32:00
Lance ReddickIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, Chris RyanJohn Wick, John Wick: Chapter 2▶ 29:27
Viggo MortensenIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Shea SerranoCaptain Fantastic▶ 1:28:51
Andy GarciaIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris RyanOcean's Eleven, The Godfather Part III▶ 1:13:51
Ian McShaneIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris RyanKung Fu Panda▶ 55:08
Steve McQueenIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsThe Great Escape▶ 17:16
Vincent ChaseIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:06:00

Writers Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 34:06
Derek KolstadIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 32:22
James CameronIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanAvatar, Aliens, Terminator 2: Judgment Day▶ 1:11:43
Noah BaumbachIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Squid and the Whale, Marriage Story▶ 1:39:11

Cinematographers Referenced (2)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Michael GrantlandIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Shea SerranoThe Other Guys▶ 4:08
Ryan CreasyIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanTerminator Genisys▶ 1:35:43