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‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman

September 20, 2022 · Margin Call (2011) · Drama · Thriller · 1:33:59

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Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsCouldn't come up with an answer for recasting - likes movies that catch people at awesome points of their career▶ 12:39

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes including Eric Dale getting laid off with Bettany's shoulder slap, Bettany explaining the model to Spacey, the balcony scene where Bettany talks about fear of jumping and breaks down his salary, the first Irons scene with 'biggest bag of odorous excrement' and music stopping speech, Irons vs Spacey confrontation, and Spacey tries to quit scene▶ 39:58
Brian KoppelmanThe stoop scene where they bring Eric Dale back▶ 48:20

What's Aged the Worst

Bill Simmons2008 is obviously aged the worst because it's unbelievable that it happened▶ 54:32

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsThe storytelling and impressive body of work that came after - books, movies, magazine articles, documentaries that captured the event correctly; the incredible use of the custodian in the elevator scene; Penn Badgley's career post-You▶ 54:36
Brian KoppelmanMovies that take place in one night with massive decisions being made while people sleep as a metaphor for how we're unaware of decisions that will affect us; the three-dimensional portrayal of Demi Moore's character; Zachary Quinto's career transformation and credibility gained from this movie▶ 55:01
Ryen RussilloGoldman Sachs' share price performance (from $50 in 2008 to $426 peak, closed at $340) and the deeper conversation about Goldman as a bank that made the right calls before 2008▶ 56:51

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Bill SimmonsThe corporate dining room when Irons is eating his steak - the big, empty, awesome dining room with views of the entire city and one guy eating by himself▶ 59:36

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsKevin Spacey's baggage from real-life controversies affecting the viewing experience, and The Big Short overshadowing this film's impact▶ 1:01:17
Brian KoppelmanAgrees with Spacey being problematic due to real-life baggage, though notes it somewhat fits since he's playing a morally bankrupt character▶ 1:03:45
Ryen RussilloThe overnight driving through the city scene where Penn says 'these people have no idea' - feels weaker compared to how The Big Short handled similar themes▶ 1:02:42

Ron Burgundy Flute Award

Bill SimmonsWhen Penn Badgley is crying - can leave for about 75 seconds during the crying and shaving scene▶ 1:04:03
Brian KoppelmanAgrees with Bill's pick but likes the shaving part of the scene, acknowledges it's a valid 75-second bathroom break▶ 1:04:13

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsCome back, take the money. You'll be home by five.▶ 1:07:33

Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Bill SimmonsI like this movie more than The Big Short - it's a better, more satisfying, more rewatchable movie▶ 1:07:46
Brian KoppelmanThis is one of the 10 best movies of the last 15 years▶ 1:08:12
Ryen RussilloIf this movie comes out in 2022, Demi Moore's character becomes Jeremy Irons (the hero), not the scapegoat - they wouldn't make the one woman the head that rolls▶ 1:08:19

Overacting Award

Bill SimmonsNo overacting found - everybody was pretty understated▶ 1:10:32
Brian KoppelmanNo overacting - performances are perfect, even big moments are earned because of the stakes▶ 1:10:45
Ryen RussilloNo overacting found - looked for it but didn't see it▶ 1:11:10

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsShot in 17 days, 80% on 42nd floor of One Penn Plaza vacated by trading firm, Jeremy Irons visa issues required U.S. senators' help during July 4th weekend (thanked in credits), and Eric Dale made math error saying 559,020 days instead of 5.59 million days▶ 1:15:49

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsZachary QuintoKinto (producer/star) and possibly Paul Bettany, but notes Bettany's Avengers work might be his actual peak▶ 1:16:44
Brian KoppelmanPaul BettanyPaul Bettany (became a true leading man) and J.C. Chandor (became A-list director)▶ 1:17:08
Ryen RussilloZachary QuintoDiscusses difficulty of the category, mentions Kinto played Spock well but doesn't definitively commit to any pick▶ 1:17:42

Racehorse Name Award

Bill SimmonsDiscussed multiple options: Margin Call, Picky Nets, and liked Brian's 'John Told' suggestion▶ 1:18:51
Brian KoppelmanJohn Told▶ 1:18:57

Is This Movie Better With

Bill SimmonsPhilip Baker HallPhilip Baker Hall as a new character in the background during the layoff scene at the beginning▶ 1:25:46
Brian KoppelmanPhilip Baker HallPhilip Baker Hall as Sam's father in a flashback▶ 1:25:55

Just One Oscar

Bill SimmonsJ.C. ChandorJC▶ 1:26:03

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Brian KoppelmanHow long does Spacey stay at the firm? He thinks Spacey stays for 10 years and never leaves, dies at his desk▶ 1:27:13
Ryen RussilloHow long does Spacey stay? At least five years, because his options are worthless now so he'll build them back up▶ 1:27:15

Best Double Feature

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsTalk to your kids▶ 1:28:24

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsJ.C. ChandorJ.C. Chandor (director) wins, with Jeremy Irons as runner-up/silver medalist▶ 1:30:31
Ryen RussilloJ.C. ChandorJ.C. Chandor - agrees with Bill's pick of the director▶ 1:31:15

Movies Referenced (30)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Wall Street (1987)IMDb ↗Lb ↗17Brian Koppelman, Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo▶ 1:54
The Big Short (2015)IMDb ↗Lb ↗10Ryen Russillo, Brian Koppelman, Bill Simmons▶ 5:10
Limitless (2011)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 31:04
Michael Clayton (2007)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 24:21
Fargo (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:06:15
Jumper (2008)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Ryen Russillo, Bill Simmons▶ 38:38
Match Point (2005)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Brian Koppelman, Bill Simmons▶ 11:36
Very Bad Things (1998)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 2:59
A Beautiful Mind (2001)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Ryen Russillo▶ 1:18:06
All Is Lost (2013)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian Koppelman▶ 33:14
Basic Instinct (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian Koppelman▶ 1:29:53
Before We Go (2014)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:32:22

Directors Referenced (6)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Ben AffleckIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Ryen Russillo, Brian Koppelman, Bill SimmonsArgo, Gone Girl, The Town▶ 24:52
Ben YoungerIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Brian KoppelmanBoiler Room▶ 26:04
J.C. ChandorIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian KoppelmanMargin Call, All Is Lost▶ 5:34
Kevin CostnerIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian KoppelmanDances with Wolves, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves▶ 24:59
Michael BerryIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian Koppelman▶ 1:20:38
Oliver StoneIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Brian KoppelmanBorn on the Fourth of July, Platoon, JFK▶ 26:10

Actors Referenced (41)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Kevin SpaceyIMDb ↗Lb ↗28Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman, Ryen RussilloL.A. Confidential, The Usual Suspects, American Beauty▶ 9:38
Stanley TucciIMDb ↗Lb ↗20Brian Koppelman, Ryen Russillo, Bill SimmonsSpotlight▶ 6:02
Penn BadgleyIMDb ↗Lb ↗16Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman, Ryen RussilloEasy A▶ 6:18
Jeremy IronsIMDb ↗Lb ↗15Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman, Ryen RussilloThe Lion King, Assassin's Creed▶ 9:10
Paul BettanyIMDb ↗Lb ↗15Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman, Ryen Russillo▶ 7:00
Simon BakerIMDb ↗Lb ↗15Brian Koppelman, Bill Simmons, Ryen RussilloMargin Call, The Devil Wears Prada▶ 7:30
Demi MooreIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Ryen RussilloStriptease, Indecent Proposal▶ 53:44
Jared CohenIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Brian Koppelman▶ 10:49
Philip Baker HallIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Brian KoppelmanMagnolia, Boogie Nights▶ 1:25:17
Tom HanksIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Brian KoppelmanCast Away, Big, Forrest Gump▶ 1:12:23
John WellsIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Brian KoppelmanFor Your Eyes Only▶ 24:59
Matthew McConaugheyIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Ryen Russillo, Bill SimmonsInterstellar, Dallas Buyers Club, Magic Mike▶ 25:35

Writers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Brian KoppelmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill SimmonsRunaway Jury, Michael Clayton▶ 1:42
Mark BulowIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsMolly's Game▶ 1:15:31
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 37:09

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Gordon WillisIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Godfather Part II▶ 59:52