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‘The Breakfast Club’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Wesley Morris

February 13, 2020 · The Breakfast Club (1985) · Comedy · Drama · 1:43:17 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsThe 15-minute stretch including Larry Lester speech, Brian's confession, lipstick trick, Bender railing at Claire, Brian asking if they'd still be friends, everyone confronting Claire, Brian talking about pressure, and Ally Sheedy admitting she's there because she had nothing better to do▶ 51:12
Wesley MorrisAgrees with Bill's pick - the confession sequence where characters switch sides and develop, calling it a really well refined scene▶ 51:49

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsThe Niagara Falls joke - Brian's lie about having a girlfriend 'you wouldn't know her' has provided 35 years of comedic mileage▶ 58:31
Chris RyanThe five high school archetypes (jock, burnout, prom queen, nerd, outcast) still feel very real even if they don't match contemporary high school▶ 58:16

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsThe whole nymphomaniac thing - it's so unrealistic and ridiculous that anyone would believe it▶ 1:01:23
Chris RyanSupports the storyline's believability by explaining that much of life was unprovable back then, before social media documentation▶ 1:01:48
Wesley MorrisDefends the nymphomaniac storyline as realistic teenage behavior, noting everyone told unbelievable lies at that age▶ 1:01:28

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsJohn CusackDiscusses multiple casting alternatives: Robin Wright would have been too beautiful for Claire, prefers the actual casting choices, finds John Cusack as Bender would make it a totally different movie since he's not threatening enough▶ 1:05:51
Chris RyanJohn CusackSuggests John Cusack as Bender would have played it more sensitive, imagines Rick Moranis wanting a more serious dramatic approach to the janitor role▶ 1:07:43
Wesley MorrisTom CruiseAgrees Rob Lowe made Molly Ringwald a star and switching parts would have broken her persona continuity, notes Nicholas Cage as Bender would have been too much but a better performance, Tom Cruise would have been perfect for Andrew the wrestler▶ 1:06:05

Joey Pants Award

Dion Waiters Award

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsPresented extensive trivia including filming location (Maine North High School), Judd Nelson's method acting issues, cast height changes during filming, deleted scenes, Simple Minds song origin, and cast feuds▶ 1:18:42
Chris RyanAdded details about Anthony Michael Hall's growth spurt during filming, clarified the swimming scene involving Vernon and Carl, and noted Molly Ringwald's influence on script changes▶ 1:20:28
Wesley MorrisDiscussed Simple Minds being a soul band making the song unusual for them, praised Annie Leibovitz's poster photography, and analyzed the cinematography style that created movie star iconography▶ 1:21:29

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsJohn HughesYes for Molly Ringwald, yes for Judd Nelson, yes for Anthony Michael Hall (after initially saying no), yes for Ally Sheedy, Ferris Bueller for John Hughes▶ 1:26:08
Chris RyanAlly SheedyDiscusses Ally Sheedy's later career work like High Art but notes it comes in third act of her career▶ 1:26:38
Wesley MorrisAnthony Michael HallAgrees that Anthony Michael Hall's leads to Weird Science and Full Metal Jacket opportunity, sees Molly Ringwald's three John Hughes movies as one unified work rather than separate films▶ 1:26:22

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsMultiple quotes including 'Does Barry Manilow know that you rate his wardrobe?', 'So it's sort of social, demented and sad, but social', and 'We're all pretty bizarre. Some of us are just better at hiding it'▶ 1:32:43
Chris RyanDon't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.▶ 1:32:55

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsMultiple questions: What's going on with Brian's flare gun (possible school shooting plot?), Is this the beginning of Claire's bad choice in men?, What was the ending to Bender's blonde joke?, Where does everyone go to college? (suggests Brian to Northwestern, Claire to Barnard/Elon, discusses 2020 remake casting)▶ 1:34:44
Chris RyanFlare gun was a cry for help, discusses college destinations (Brian to Berkeley/Purdue for wrestling, Andrew to Michigan State/Purdue, Allison to RISD/Antioch/Kenyon), questions why Brian writes the essay while others make out▶ 1:35:17
Wesley MorrisFlare gun doesn't make sense but makes sense for Brian's character, asks why Claire and Bender make out in front of her dad, discusses college (Claire as legacy kid at elite school, University of Miami), suggests 2020 version should be monoracial (all black, all Latino, etc.)▶ 1:35:22

Movies Referenced (37)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Full Metal Jacket (1987)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Wesley Morris▶ 1:08:07
Apocalypse Now (1979)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 28:49
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Wesley Morris, Bill Simmons▶ 21:59
Some Kind of Wonderful (1987)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 18:13
Die Hard (1988)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan▶ 3:12
Inside Out (2015)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris▶ 1:12:52
Man of the Year (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:25:37
Risky Business (1983)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris▶ 9:56
She's Having a Baby (1988)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 18:18
Sing (2016)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 1:21:17
Weird Science (1985)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris▶ 18:10
All the Right Moves (1983)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 9:55

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
John HughesIMDb ↗Lb ↗17Bill Simmons, Wesley MorrisPlanes, Trains & Automobiles, Uncle Buck, The Breakfast Club▶ 1:54
Sean PennIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsMystic River, 21 Grams, Dead Man Walking▶ 0:56
Joel SchumacherIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Wesley MorrisThe Phantom of the Opera, 8MM▶ 26:49
Joy DivisionIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanDonnie Darko▶ 41:48

Actors Referenced (46)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Emilio EstevezIMDb ↗Lb ↗39Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Chris Ryan▶ 1:45
Molly RingwaldIMDb ↗Lb ↗26Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Chris RyanSixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink▶ 1:51
Judd NelsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗21Bill Simmons, Wesley MorrisThe Breakfast Club, St. Elmo's Fire▶ 1:50
Ally SheedyIMDb ↗Lb ↗18Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Wesley MorrisWarGames, The Breakfast Club▶ 1:52
Anthony Michael HallIMDb ↗Lb ↗16Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Chris RyanLive by Night▶ 1:48
Andrew McCarthyIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Wesley Morris, Bill Simmons, Chris RyanPretty in Pink▶ 41:30
Martin SheenIMDb ↗Lb ↗8Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Chris RyanThe Departed▶ 27:37
John CusackIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Wesley MorrisHigh Fidelity, 1408▶ 25:47
Paul GleasonIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris RyanThe Breakfast Club▶ 1:47
David CarusoIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Wesley Morris, Bill SimmonsFirst Blood, Proof of Life▶ 38:42
Demi MooreIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Wesley Morris, Bill Simmons, Chris RyanStriptease, Indecent Proposal▶ 26:31
Rob LoweIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Wesley MorrisSt. Elmo's Fire▶ 24:40

Writers Referenced (2)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris▶ 24:59
Elmore LeonardIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Wesley MorrisOut of Sight, Get Shorty▶ 40:38

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Michael GrantlandIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Other Guys▶ 2:21