'The Fugitive' With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Andy Greenwald
January 4, 2022 · The Fugitive (1993) · Action · Crime · Drama · 1:10:08 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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Most Rewatchable Scene
Andy GreenwaldThe dam waterfall jump scene - specifically praising Harrison Ford's performance and the humanity shown in that moment▶ 14:57
Bill SimmonsThe aborted bus escape train crash, Tommy Lee Jones taking over the investigation, the damn waterfall jump, and the ending - identifies these as the big four most rewatchable scenes▶ 13:00
Chris RyanThe dam waterfall jump scene - emphasizing the realistic way Ford's character contemplates the jump and his desperation▶ 13:25
What's Aged the Worst
Andy GreenwaldThe tweed blazers worn by every character in the first 15 minutes and the overall concept that the movie couldn't be made today due to technology advances like cell phones▶ 24:50
Bill SimmonsCGI and train scene, Harrison Ford's beard, and DNA evidence/lack thereof and the whole concept of Dr. Kimball getting convicted▶ 23:03
Chris RyanThe actual bus accident scene, which looks like a Matchbox bus rolling down a sand mound▶ 25:33
Half-Assed Internet Research
Andy GreenwaldCommentary on how Selah Ward and Julianne Moore had minimal roles despite being notable actresses; Julianne Moore was the 'next big thing' coming off Hand That Rocks the Cradle▶ 32:09
Bill SimmonsSelah Ward lobbied for her character to be in a coma instead of dying; Julianne Moore's part was originally a love interest; two Cosmos in 1993 (Cosmo Renfro and Cosmo Kramer)▶ 31:53
Chris RyanJulianne Moore's part was supposed to be a love interest but was changed because it wouldn't make sense for Harrison Ford's character on a vengeance mission; Jane Lynch's researcher character was also considered as a possible love interest▶ 32:51
Dion Waiters Award
Andy GreenwaldJeroen Krabbé — Made argument for Jerome Crabb (Dr. Charles Nichols) but didn't definitively pick▶ 36:43
Chris RyanMatt Walsh — Nominated all the reporters at Tommy Lee Jones' press conference including Selena's ex-husband from Veep▶ 35:04
Apex Mountain
Andy GreenwaldTommy Lee Jones — Tommy Lee Jones - yes, though notes No Country for Old Men as related/competition; Joe Pantoliano - possibly, this was when he became recognizable and likeable before becoming 'his own guy'▶ 39:55
Bill SimmonsJeroen Krabbé — Jeroen Krabbé - this was his apex; Tommy Lee Jones - yes, though acknowledges No Country as competition; Harrison Ford - no, first Raiders of the Lost Ark is his apex; One-armed man (Andreas Katsoulis) - yes, this was his apex▶ 38:15
Chris RyanHarrison Ford — Questions whether it could be apex for Harrison Ford but doesn't take a strong position; discusses Joe Pantoliano's prolific output making it hard to determine apex▶ 40:06
Picking Nits
Andy GreenwaldThe movie skipped 18-27 months of the justice system; the young cop saying 'book him' was odd; why did they need to kill Kimball and his wife at all; Dr. Nichols' existence in the movie makes no sense▶ 46:49
Bill SimmonsDr. Kimball should have gotten a lawyer when he was the only suspect; the justice system moved too fast; Harrison Ford shaving his beard with an old razor should have hurt; Dr. Nichols helping Kimball made no sense when he could have turned him in▶ 46:38
Chris RyanThe justice system moved ridiculously fast; the pharmaceutical plot with Pro Basic takes you out of the movie and doesn't make sense why they had to kill everyone▶ 46:55
Best Quote
Bill SimmonsOffered multiple options including 'I don't care', 'You know we're always fascinated when we find leg irons with no legs in them', 'I don't bargain', and 'Our fugitive's name is Dr. Richard Kimball'▶ 57:39
Chris RyanDiscussed the 'I don't bargain' vs 'I don't miss' line and appreciated the context of whispering it to someone with hearing impairment▶ 58:12
Who Won the Movie
Andy GreenwaldTommy Lee Jones — Tommy Lee Jones - went from well-respected character actor to major star with subsequent roles in Client, Natural Born Killers, Cobb, Batman Forever, Men in Black▶ 1:06:11
Bill SimmonsTommy Lee Jones — TLJ (Tommy Lee Jones) - He's the star of the movie and it made his career▶ 1:05:36
Chris RyanTommy Lee Jones — Tommy Lee Jones - discusses his career trajectory from Coal Miner's Daughter through JFK and Under Siege to his post-Fugitive stardom▶ 1:05:51
Movies Referenced (42)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under Siege (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | ▶ 2:04 |
| Enemy of the State (1998) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | ▶ 24:30 |
| Miami Vice (2006) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | ▶ 4:51 |
| Patriot Games (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | ▶ 15:48 |
| Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 2:55 |
| The Matrix (1999) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 41:25 |
| Babylon (2022) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Andy Greenwald | ▶ 35:55 |
| Bad Boys (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 41:43 |
| Batman (1989) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Andy Greenwald | ▶ 11:13 |
| Baywatch (2017) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 4:45 |
| Hulk (2003) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:02:44 |
| Air Force One (1997) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Andy Greenwald | ▶ 16:47 |
Directors Referenced (6)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Davis | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald, Chris Ryan | The Fugitive, Under Siege | ▶ 5:40 |
| Charles Nichols | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | ▶ 34:57 | |
| Kevin Costner | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Andy Greenwald | Dances with Wolves, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves | ▶ 17:24 |
| Walter Hill | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | 48 Hrs., Aliens | ▶ 18:27 |
| Michael Mann | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Insider, Collateral, The Last of the Mohicans | ▶ 4:51 |
| Xavier Gens | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Andy Greenwald | ▶ 26:28 |
Actors Referenced (49)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Harrison Ford | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 39 | Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald, Chris Ryan | Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope, The Fugitive | ▶ 1:12 |
| Tommy Lee Jones | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 29 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Andy Greenwald | The Fugitive, No Country for Old Men | ▶ 5:27 |
| Richard Jordan | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 23 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Andy Greenwald | The Hunt for Red October | ▶ 15:41 |
| Jon Voight | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 11 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | Midnight Cowboy, Anaconda, Deliverance | ▶ 17:49 |
| Danny Trejo | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Andy Greenwald | Machete, From Dusk Till Dawn, Predators | ▶ 56:29 |
| Gene Hackman | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven | ▶ 17:49 |
| Mark Ruffalo | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Andy Greenwald | Spotlight, The Kids Are All Right, The Avengers | ▶ 1:01:07 |
| Julianne Moore | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Andy Greenwald, Bill Simmons | Far from Heaven, Boogie Nights, Magnolia | ▶ 18:58 |
| Nick Nolte | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald, Chris Ryan | Warrior | ▶ 18:27 |
| Alec Baldwin | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Andy Greenwald | The Departed, It's Complicated, Glengarry Glen Ross | ▶ 15:41 |
| Andy Garcia | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Andy Greenwald | Ocean's Eleven, The Godfather Part III | ▶ 5:52 |
| Joe Pantoliano | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Memento, The Matrix | ▶ 40:53 |
Writers Referenced (5)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Julie Siege | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 8 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Andy Greenwald | ▶ 2:04 | |
| Tom Clancy | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Andy Greenwald, Bill Simmons | The Hunt for Red October, The Sum of All Fears, Clear and Present Danger | ▶ 16:38 |
| Al Gore | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 1:05:42 | |
| J.J. Abrams | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Star Trek | ▶ 50:05 |
| Tommy Lee | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Vanilla Sky | ▶ 43:54 |
Cinematographers Referenced (1)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Grantland | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Other Guys | ▶ 21:10 |