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‘The Godfather Part III' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

March 17, 2020 · The Godfather Part III (1990) · Crime · Drama · 1:30:09 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes including the Joey Zaza-Vincent Mancini showdown in Michael's office, the penthouse conference scene with helicopter attack, and the kitchen scene with Pacino's 'just when I thought I was out' moment▶ 37:05
Chris RyanContributes details about multiple scenes including Garcia's drunk acting, the penthouse helicopter scene with oranges rolling, and the San Gennaro feast sequence▶ 37:21
Sean FennesseyDiscusses the penthouse conference scene positively, noting it's like a 70s exploitation movie but works well in the film▶ 42:03

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsKate Corleone's hair - calls it looking like a poodle or Westminster dog show▶ 53:12
Chris RyanThe incest plot - says it's what's aged the worst▶ 54:00

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsAlec BaldwinBelieves Alec Baldwin was the most credible alternate for Vincent Mancini, dismisses Tom Cruise/Matt Dillon/Val Kilmer rumors, thinks Charlie Sheen and Vincent Spano were possible, mentions De Niro wanted to play Vincent with aged-up Pacino▶ 1:01:40
Chris RyanLuke PerryLikes the Luke Perry audition possibility, agrees Nicolas Cage could have been good despite being a family member▶ 1:02:39
Sean FennesseyNicolas CageNotes Nicolas Cage as family member option, mentions classic Irish-for-Italian casting with Baldwin reference▶ 1:02:14

Joey Pants Award

Bill SimmonsRick AvilesOne of the two assassins that comes into Vincent's apartment (who also played Willie Lopez in Ghost)▶ 1:04:18
Chris RyanMario DonatoneMario Donatone as Mosco, the Sicilian assassin; Donald Donnelly as International Immovarelli▶ 1:05:17
Sean FennesseyDon NovelloDon Novello (Father Guido Sarducci from SNL) as Dominic Abandando, the PR guy; also mentioned John Savage as Andrew Hagen▶ 1:04:53

Dion Waiters Award

Chris RyanDiscusses Wallach's casting rationale but doesn't give alternative pick▶ 1:09:39
Sean FennesseyDiscusses Wallach's career and casting issues but doesn't give alternative pick▶ 1:07:58

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsMultiple facts: First draft written in 1979 by Dean Reisner about Anthony as CIA naval officer; Sofia Coppola was in all three films (baby in baptism, Ellis Island child, Mary in Part 3); 2,000 actors auditioned for Anthony; prefers not recasting Brando as Don Altobello because he's too different physically▶ 1:14:08
Chris RyanWould be excited to see the planned Godfather 4 starring Andy Garcia as Vincent and Leonardo DiCaprio as young Sonny, set in 90s New York during Giuliani era▶ 1:15:51
Sean FennesseyWould like to see the planned Godfather 4 with Andy Garcia and Leonardo DiCaprio, and would watch another Godfather movie in general▶ 1:17:04

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsAndy GarciaAndy Garcia (yes), Sofia Coppola acting jokes, George Hamilton, Women's hair, The Vatican▶ 1:18:45
Sean FennesseyDiscussed Internal Affairs movie but unclear on specific Apex Mountain picks▶ 1:18:52

Picking Nits

Bill SimmonsWhy wasn't everyone more horrified by the incest plot? Can't believe critics like Ebert weren't more critical of it▶ 1:19:48
Bill SimmonsThe Vatican financial plot is too hard to follow - too many characters and subplots to keep track of▶ 1:20:32
Chris RyanWhat's the vetting process for Archbishop Gilday to become in charge of all of the Vatican's finances?▶ 1:20:09
Sean FennesseyThe Vatican's vetting process for putting Archbishop Gilday in charge of finances doesn't make sense - why put the nervy smoking guy in charge of the bank?▶ 1:20:18

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsThe movie should have had a scene where Michael takes Kay back to Apollonia's house in Sicily and comes clean about his first marriage▶ 1:21:47
Chris RyanAgrees with Bill's Apollonia scene idea but notes that romance/true love isn't the most compelling aspect of the trilogy▶ 1:22:28
Sean FennesseyWhat happened to the $600 million immobiliari deal after Mary dies - did it close and is Michael in charge of Vatican Bank finances?▶ 1:20:42

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsMultiple quotes including 'Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment', 'He who builds on the people builds on mud', 'I don't need tough guys. I need more lawyers', and 'Now they'll fear you. Maybe they should fear you'▶ 1:23:11
Chris RyanNever hate your enemies. It affects your judgment▶ 1:23:19

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsAl PacinoPacino wins it, but Garcia makes a better run than realized▶ 1:26:20
Sean FennesseyAndy GarciaConsiders Andy Garcia's case by reviewing his career trajectory from 1986-1990▶ 1:26:24

Movies Referenced (36)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
The Godfather (1972)IMDb ↗Lb ↗13Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan▶ 1:23
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 2:39
Goodfellas (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 8:58
Scarface (1983)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 15:29
21 Jump Street (2012)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 47:05
Lucy (2014)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 37:49
Pretty Woman (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 8:50
Proof of Life (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 1:07:09
Pulp Fiction (1994)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 2:41
Sicario (2015)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 47:17
Sing (2016)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey▶ 1:14:37
Almost Famous (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 47:22

Directors Referenced (7)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Sofia CoppolaIMDb ↗Lb ↗16Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanThe Godfather Part III, The Virgin Suicides, Lost in Translation▶ 3:55
Ralph LuccheseIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 44:49
Martin ScorseseIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsTaxi Driver, Killers of the Flower Moon, Mean Streets▶ 18:30
John P. FertittaIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyMississippi Burning▶ 11:48
Warren BeattyIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsHeaven Can Wait▶ 6:07
Eleanor CoppolaIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 32:40
Sergio LeoneIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyOnce Upon a Time in America, Once Upon a Time in the West▶ 1:08:12

Actors Referenced (70)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Al PacinoIMDb ↗Lb ↗42Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanDog Day Afternoon, The Godfather▶ 4:55
Andy GarciaIMDb ↗Lb ↗30Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyOcean's Eleven, The Godfather Part III▶ 6:33
George HamiltonIMDb ↗Lb ↗16Bill Simmons, Chris RyanThe Godfather Part III▶ 25:07
Diane KeatonIMDb ↗Lb ↗11Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanAnnie Hall, Something's Gotta Give▶ 21:27
Frank SinatraIMDb ↗Lb ↗11Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanFrom Here to Eternity▶ 1:00:41
Robert De NiroIMDb ↗Lb ↗11Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyCape Fear, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver▶ 7:59
Eli WallachIMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey▶ 54:06
Winona RyderIMDb ↗Lb ↗8Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsDracula▶ 19:00
Paul NewmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyRoad to Perdition, The Verdict▶ 53:38
Joe MantegnaIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseySearching for Bobby Fischer, Baby's Day Out, The Godfather Part III▶ 39:35
Daniel SeaIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 15:40
John SavageIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyThe Deer Hunter▶ 25:29

Writers Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 6:50
Brian KoppelmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanRunaway Jury, Michael Clayton▶ 2:22
David MametIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyHouse of Games▶ 40:49
Michael CiminoIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Deer Hunter▶ 1:03:31

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Adam MacbethIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean Fennessey▶ 24:55