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'The Shawshank Redemption’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Bill’s Dad

September 25, 2019 · The Shawshank Redemption (1994) · Drama · 1:50:44 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsPresented multiple nominees including Andy and Red's first scene, the rooftop scene with Hadley, and Red's institutionalized speech, but didn't give a single definitive pick▶ 24:54
Chris RyanThe rooftop scene where Andy convinces Hadley about the inheritance and they get beers afterwards▶ 27:11

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsMorgan Freeman as the narrator - it's amazing more sponsors don't have him narrate their products and commercials because you hear his voice and it's just... Morgan Freeman▶ 56:43
Chris RyanFreeman's whole performance throughout the movie - Tim Robbins has some low moments but Freeman never sounds a wrong note the entire time▶ 55:19
William SimmonsThe music and the overhead shot of the prison scene▶ 56:36

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsThe lack of variety in Andy stories - questioning how they could sit around telling Andy stories when they seemingly only had one story (the bears on the roof)▶ 59:12
Chris RyanAgrees with the Andy stories issue - the implausibility that they'd keep retelling the same stories for decades and wondering if they'd eventually want to sit with someone else for lunch▶ 1:00:01
William SimmonsSupports the Andy stories critique - agrees it's a valid point when thinking about what other funny things Andy did during that dining hall scene▶ 59:51

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsJon FavreauJohn Favreau auditioned for Fat Ass role but did poorly, which motivated him to lose weight for Swingers. Bob Gunton was cast as the warden because he's 6'2" and could fit Tim Robbins' suit (Tim is 6'5")▶ 1:06:49
William SimmonsFound it interesting that they planned ahead for the warden's suit fitting for a scene that comes at the end of the movie▶ 1:07:36

Joey Pants Award

Bill SimmonsDiscussed multiple options including Bob Gunton (the warden), William Sadler (Heywood), David Proval (Richie Aprile from Sopranos), and Brian Libby (Floyd), but didn't give a definitive final pick▶ 1:09:03
Chris RyanDavid ProvalDavid Proval (the Sopranos guy/Richie Aprile character)▶ 1:11:13
William SimmonsBob GuntonBob Gunton (the warden) because he didn't jump out as being in many other movies▶ 1:11:21

Dion Waiters Award

William SimmonsJames WhitmoreBrooks (scene with knife against Hayward's neck)▶ 1:13:56

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsPresents extensive trivia including filming location in Ohio, Stephen King framing the check, Roger Deakins' Oscar nominations, Andy's prison ID number 37927, stolen money of $370,000, only two women with speaking roles, beach scenes shot in Saint Croix, sewage pipe made of chocolate syrup and sawdust, dedication to agent Alan Green, and deleted scenes▶ 1:14:15
Chris RyanContributes details about tense filming conditions with 15-hour days, Freeman's experience coming from Clint Eastwood's efficient sets, movie being a box office dud initially, and producer Liz Glatzar insisting on the reunion ending▶ 1:15:20
William SimmonsParticipates by guessing trivia answers (incorrectly guessing $35,000 for stolen money), noting additional women in the movie, asking about the sewage pipe scene logistics, and commenting on not knowing who Alan Green was until multiple viewings▶ 1:16:20

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsMorgan FreemanMorgan Freeman - yes, this is his apex mountain due to Unforgiven and Seven combination▶ 1:22:22
Chris RyanFrank DarabontFrank Darabont - yes, this is his apex mountain (though mentions Walking Dead as potential contender)▶ 1:24:13

Picking Nits

Bill SimmonsMultiple pipe-related issues: Why doesn't Andy break the pipe further down to reduce crawling distance? How does he know which direction to go? The smell would be unbearable for 500 yards and he'd likely pass out▶ 1:27:07
Bill SimmonsThe miraculous Ziploc bag that survives 500 yards of sewage pipe perfectly intact with suit, documents, and chess pieces - no bag could work that well▶ 1:32:55
Bill SimmonsHow does the poster stay perfectly stuck to the wall for years without corners falling down, and how does Andy reattach it from inside the hole each time?▶ 1:34:00
Chris RyanWhat's the plan if there's not a thunderstorm that night? Andy's entire escape depends on the storm for cover but 1960s weather forecasting wasn't reliable enough to guarantee it▶ 1:26:11
William SimmonsAgrees with the pipe direction logic and questions about bed checks during Andy's nightly digging sessions▶ 1:27:22

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsMultiple quotes including 'I'm gonna go pinch a loaf', 'How much do you trust your wife', and Red's parole speech ('There's not a day goes by I don't feel regret...')▶ 1:41:29
Chris RyanMaybe it's because I'm Irish▶ 1:41:09

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsMorgan FreemanFreeman - surprised how easy the Freeman answer was for the movie▶ 1:46:16
Chris RyanMorgan FreemanFreeman - he's the perfect narrator and avatar for the balance between sentimentality and cynicism▶ 1:46:22
William SimmonsMorgan FreemanFreeman - references the last parole board scene as epitomizing Chris's point▶ 1:46:51

Movies Referenced (39)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Forrest Gump (1994)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 14:14
Terms of Endearment (1983)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 48:42
The Rock (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 8:10
Unforgiven (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5William Simmons, Bill Simmons▶ 1:15:20
Ed Wood (1994)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 19:42
Goodfellas (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 47:19
The Beach (2000)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, William Simmons▶ 43:45
Escape from Alcatraz (1979)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3William Simmons, Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 14:37
Boogie Nights (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 23:37
Bright (2017)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 38:10
Jaws (1975)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan▶ 17:46
Miller's Crossing (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan▶ 48:11

Directors Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Ben AffleckIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsArgo, Gone Girl, The Town▶ 33:13
Randall StevensIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 37:20
Kevin CostnerIMDb ↗Lb ↗1William SimmonsDances with Wolves, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves▶ 1:02:32
Rob ReinerIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThis Is Spinal Tap, The Wolf of Wall Street▶ 13:29

Actors Referenced (27)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Andy HarrisonIMDb ↗Lb ↗33Bill Simmons, William Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 3:52
Morgan FreemanIMDb ↗Lb ↗11Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, William SimmonsSe7en, Driving Miss Daisy, Million Dollar Baby▶ 8:44
Tim RobbinsIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris RyanMystic River, The Player, Howard the Duck▶ 14:31
Castle RockIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 13:19
Jimmy KimmelIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 22:51
Martin LandauIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris RyanEd Wood, Crimes and Misdemeanors, North by Northwest▶ 19:42
Raquel WelchIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 44:25
Glenn FordIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan▶ 13:11
Rita HayworthIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, William Simmons▶ 12:52
Tom HanksIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Chris RyanCast Away, Big, Forrest Gump▶ 18:25
A. Ross De St. CroixIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsNightmare Alley▶ 10:19
Bob GuntonIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Shawshank Redemption▶ 21:27

Writers Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Frank DarabontIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris RyanThe Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, The Mist▶ 8:57
Stephen KingIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 12:52
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 17:06
Nelson MandelaIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsMalcolm X▶ 23:12

Cinematographers Referenced (1)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Roger DeakinsIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanBlade Runner 2049, Skyfall, No Country for Old Men▶ 33:02