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'The Social Network' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

May 24, 2018 · The Social Network (2010) · Biography · Drama · 1:17:47 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsFour scenes: opening scene, crew scene at Henley Royal Regatta, first Justin Timberlake/Dakota Johnson scene, and Eduardo finding out he got screwed▶ 21:24
Chris RyanLarry Summers scene▶ 27:52
Sean FennesseyThe cutting between the final club party mixed with Mark creating Facebook▶ 28:01

What's Aged the Best

Chris RyanThe Winklevoss twins digital effects - groundbreaking digital cinematography that still looks convincing years later▶ 38:40
Sean FennesseyHow much we should have been trusting the Peter Thiel character when he comes on as an investor (played by Wallace Langham)▶ 39:19

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsEisenberg's Zuckerberg portrayal, Zuck's message board comments, the hot-or-not rating app, Eduardo's girlfriend's bed-burning subplot, and Kevin Spacey as executive producer▶ 40:29
Chris RyanThe Christie character and relationship, particularly the bed-burning incident▶ 43:14
Sean FennesseyPeter Thiel (though he notes it also aged the best in some ways)▶ 39:28

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsShia LaBeoufShia LaBeouf turned down Zuckerberg role - thinks Eisenberg was better and LaBeouf would have been fired; Jonathan Groff almost got Sean Parker role but JT was the right choice▶ 43:33
Sean FennesseyShia LaBeoufAgrees Shia LaBeouf was too manic and Eisenberg was A+ for Zuckerberg; agrees JT was right choice over Jonathan Groff for Sean Parker▶ 43:37

Dion Waiters Award

Half-Assed Internet Research

Bill SimmonsHarvard scenes filmed at Phillips Milton Academy, Wheelock, and Johns Hopkins; Natalie Portman was the movie star referenced; Josh Pence (other Winklevoss twin) also appears in bathroom scene; Justin Timberlake lost 15-17 pounds to seem younger; opening breakup scene took 99 takes and 8 script pages; Bill Gates played by impersonator▶ 47:26
Chris RyanConfirmed Natalie Portman went to Harvard (initially thought she went to Brown); guessed Justin Timberlake lost weight because Sean Parker was on cocaine▶ 48:05
Sean FennesseyGuessed Justin Timberlake lost weight because Sean Parker was on paleo diet; noted usual script pages per scene is around three compared to the eight-page opening scene▶ 49:03

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsJesse EisenbergJesse Eisenberg - calls it his Apex Mountain, says it's hard to imagine him having a more impactful role than this iconic one▶ 49:52
Chris RyanJesse EisenbergAgrees on Jesse Eisenberg's Apex. Says David Fincher's Apex is not this movie because it's 'not perverted enough' and considers Zodiac his masterpiece. Thinks Justin Timberlake's apex is his work with Lonely Island▶ 50:10
Sean FennesseyJesse EisenbergAgrees on Jesse Eisenberg. Says David Fincher hasn't reached his Apex Mountain yet - thinks something is 'around the bend.' For Justin Timberlake, says the 'Rock Your Body' video was his pinnacle. Says Armie Hammer's Apex is 'Call Me By Your Name'▶ 50:18

Picking Nits

Bill SimmonsThe Dustin Moskovitz/Eduardo Saverin thing for people who actually know a lot about Facebook▶ 1:01:30
Chris RyanThe PR guy who's in one scene is Chris Hughes, who now runs the New Republic, but he was one of the roommates▶ 1:01:37

Best Quote

Bill SimmonsMultiple quotes including 'There's a difference between being obsessed and being motivated', 'Dating you is like dating a stairmaster', 'You're going to go through life thinking girls won't like you because you're a nerd, and it's going to be because you're an asshole', and 'If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you would have invented Facebook'▶ 1:01:51
Chris RyanI'll bet what you hated the most is that they identified me as the co-founder of Facebook, which I am because you better lawyer up asshole because I'm coming back. Not for 30%. I'm coming back for everything.▶ 1:02:20
Sean FennesseySean Parker's monologue ending with 'This time you're going to hand them a business card that says I'm CEO, bitch', though also notes 'If you were the founder of Facebook, you would have founded Facebook' as the iconic line▶ 1:02:39

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsDid Zuck actually steal the Harvard connection? No. Was this movie too harsh about Zuck? No.▶ 1:03:47
Sean FennesseyOn the theft question, says it doesn't matter because Zuck won. On harshness toward Zuck, says the movie should have been harder on what he was doing.▶ 1:03:56

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsAaron SorkinSorkin - agrees with the others while acknowledging Jesse Eisenberg's excellent performance▶ 1:13:13
Chris RyanAaron SorkinSorkin - argues the dialogue is the hero of the movie and creates the architecture for the film's structure▶ 1:12:08
Sean FennesseyAaron SorkinSorkin - agrees with Chris, noting the script won an Oscar and is essential to everything else working▶ 1:13:13

Movies Referenced (47)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Nope (2022)IMDb ↗Lb ↗8Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 1:04:47
Miami Vice (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 20:43
Molly's Game (2017)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 53:21
2012 (2009)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey▶ 16:42
All the President's Men (1976)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 5:24
Gone Girl (2014)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Chris Ryan▶ 51:56
Jaws (1975)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 0:10
The Godfather (1972)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 0:10
Call Me by Your Name (2017)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey▶ 55:58
Hacksaw Ridge (2016)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 53:57
Panic Room (2002)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons▶ 24:48
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean Fennessey▶ 40:24

Directors Referenced (11)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
David FincherIMDb ↗Lb ↗30Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseySe7en, Gone Girl, Zodiac▶ 5:57
Clint EastwoodIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill SimmonsMillion Dollar Baby, Gran Torino, Unforgiven▶ 53:54
Tom HooperIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsThe Danish Girl▶ 7:37
Martin ScorseseIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Chris Ryan, Bill SimmonsTaxi Driver, Killers of the Flower Moon, Mean Streets▶ 35:17
Woody AllenIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Sean FennesseyAnnie Hall▶ 1:15:30
Christopher NolanIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyTenet, Interstellar, Inception▶ 1:10:07
Dagny Atencio LooperIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean Fennessey▶ 1:05:05
Gore VerbinskiIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyRango▶ 56:06
Mel GibsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsBraveheart, Lethal Weapon 3, Conspiracy Theory▶ 54:02
Michael MannIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Insider, Collateral, The Last of the Mohicans▶ 28:24
Steven SoderberghIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 37:17

Actors Referenced (70)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Jesse EisenbergIMDb ↗Lb ↗26Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanA Real Pain, The Social Network, The Squid and the Whale▶ 7:37
Justin TimberlakeIMDb ↗Lb ↗15Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanThe Social Network▶ 20:02
Armie HammerIMDb ↗Lb ↗10Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsCall Me by Your Name, The Social Network, The Lone Ranger▶ 33:49
Rooney MaraIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyThe Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Social Network▶ 13:51
Trent ReznorIMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris RyanThe Social Network, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo▶ 28:58
Andrew GarfieldIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyHacksaw Ridge, The Amazing Spider-Man, The Social Network▶ 15:42
Dustin HoffmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris RyanRain Man, Tootsie, Midnight Cowboy▶ 2:01
Larry KingIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean FennesseyGhostbusters, Enemy of the State▶ 7:34
Roy ScheiderIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris RyanJaws, The French Connection, All That Jazz▶ 1:16:28
Dakota JohnsonIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyFifty Shades of Grey, The Social Network▶ 24:52
Max MinghellaIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsBabylon, The Social Network▶ 34:34
Al PacinoIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Sean Fennessey, Bill SimmonsDog Day Afternoon, The Godfather▶ 39:55

Writers Referenced (6)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Aaron SorkinIMDb ↗Lb ↗26Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons, Chris RyanA Few Good Men▶ 5:33
Andy GreenwaldIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris Ryan▶ 48:11
Damien ChazelleIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanWhiplash, La La Land, First Man▶ 1:15:27
Harvey WeinsteinIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyShakespeare in Love, The Hateful Eight▶ 8:55
Noah BaumbachIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyThe Squid and the Whale, Marriage Story▶ 1:15:21
Spike JonzeIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Sean FennesseyThree Kings▶ 1:15:18

Cinematographers Referenced (3)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Michael GrantlandIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Sean FennesseyThe Other Guys▶ 17:33
Jeff CronenwethIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanGone Girl, The Social Network, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo▶ 1:10:36
Keith EisbergIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 55:05