'Training Day' With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Shea Serrano
May 31, 2018 · Training Day (2001) · Crime · Drama · Thriller · 1:25:30 · ▶ Listen on Spotify
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What's Aged the Best
Sean FennesseyThe two main performances and the anti-hero quality that became consistent with later storytelling▶ 25:49
What's Aged the Worst
Chris RyanThe very first scene with Jake's family - seems like it was tested and added after the fact with really bad dialogue▶ 28:44
Sean FennesseyMacy Gray's appearance - it wasn't bad but sticks out like a sore thumb because she's not part of the culture anymore▶ 28:36
Dion Waiters Award
Bill SimmonsSnoop Dogg — Snoop Dogg - 'I'm giving Snoop Dogg just because it was so unexpected'▶ 35:34
Chris RyanCliff Curtis — Cliff Curtis for Smiley - 'I think I'm going to give it to Cliff Curtis for Smiley'▶ 35:05
Sean FennesseySnoop Dogg — Praised Snoop Dogg's performance, saying 'by all accounts, should have been bad' but was good stuff▶ 33:57
Joey Pants Award
Bill SimmonsPresents both Scott Glenn and Harris Yulin as nominees, discusses both extensively but doesn't make a definitive choice between them▶ 36:08
Chris RyanScott Glenn — Extensively discusses Scott Glenn's character Roger, praising his performance and the character's backstory, showing strong preference for Glenn▶ 37:19
Sean FennesseyDiscusses both Harris Yulin's iconic roles (Ghostbusters 2, Scarface) and Scott Glenn's character background, but doesn't declare a winner▶ 36:46
Apex Mountain
Bill SimmonsDenzel Washington — Denzel Washington in Training Day - calls it his 'Michael Jordan 1992 finals moment' when he had everything except an Oscar and this iconic performance▶ 53:30
Chris RyanEthan Hawke — Ethan Hawke in Before Sunset - though also mentions Reality Bites as his movie star apex and praises his work in Boyhood▶ 49:36
Sean FennesseyDenzel Washington — Denzel Washington in Malcolm X - emphasizes how he plays three distinct characters (gangster, militant, spiritual leader) in one performance▶ 52:54
Best Quote
Chris RyanYou'll never see the light of the fuck you think you fucking with. I'm the police. I run shit here. You just live here.▶ 59:44
Sean FennesseyYou better walk away. Go and walk away. Because I'm going to burn this motherfucker down.▶ 59:53
Probably Unanswerable Questions
Chris RyanWhat is Jake's tomorrow? What's he doing the day after training? Is he still a cop?▶ 1:00:33
Sean FennesseyJake would try to become a lieutenant very young and rise up the ranks, similar trajectory to Edmund Exley from LA Confidential▶ 1:01:00
Who Won the Movie
Sean FennesseyDenzel Washington — Jokingly suggests Scott Glenn as alternative but seems to agree with consensus▶ 1:04:01
Shea SerranoDenzel Washington — Denzel Washington - calls it his cultural apex and discusses Denzel as greatest actor/movie star▶ 1:09:53
Half-Assed Internet Research
Bill SimmonsDenzel ad-libbed the King Kong line and they mixed up poker rules on Ethan Hawke to make him confused and uneasy▶ 1:17:29
Movies Referenced (68)
| Title (year) | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Malcolm X (1992) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 16 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Shea Serrano | ▶ 3:38 |
| King Kong (2005) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 11 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 18:36 |
| Philadelphia (1993) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 4:21 |
| He Got Game (1998) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 4:14 |
| Courage Under Fire (1996) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons | ▶ 11:35 |
| Crimson Tide (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Chris Ryan | ▶ 4:40 |
| Man on Fire (2004) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 4:47 |
| Pulp Fiction (1994) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 45:46 |
| Rain Man (1988) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 23:15 |
| The Equalizer (2014) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 4 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | ▶ 51:35 |
| Boyhood (2014) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Sean Fennessey | ▶ 50:09 |
| Before Sunrise (1995) | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 27:58 |
Directors Referenced (18)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Antoine Fuqua | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 17 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | The Magnificent Seven, The Equalizer | ▶ 17:06 |
| Sean Penn | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 9 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | Mystic River, 21 Grams, Dead Man Walking | ▶ 1:09 |
| Peter Jackson | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | King Kong | ▶ 21:27 |
| Carl Franklin | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Sean Fennessey | Devil in a Blue Dress, Out of Time | ▶ 5:19 |
| Chris Corner | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Shea Serrano | The Saint, Open Your Eyes | ▶ 1:17:03 |
| Danny Boyle | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | 127 Hours, 28 Days Later | ▶ 35:10 |
| David Lynch | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 21:27 | |
| Davis Guggenheim | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | Training Day | ▶ 30:45 |
| Dine Haouari | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 20:55 | |
| Michael Bay | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Chris Ryan | Armageddon | ▶ 27:42 |
| Norman Jewison | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Sean Fennessey | In the Heat of the Night, Moonstruck | ▶ 15:29 |
| Ridley Scott | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Martian, Blade Runner | ▶ 21:22 |
Actors Referenced (82)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Denzel Washington | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 129 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Shea Serrano | ▶ 1:48 | |
| Scott Glenn | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 33 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | The Hunt for Red October, Sucker Punch, The Bourne Legacy | ▶ 17:51 |
| Ethan Hawke | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 30 | Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan | Training Day, Before Sunrise, Before Midnight | ▶ 1:32 |
| Tom Hanks | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 25 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Shea Serrano | Cast Away, Big, Forrest Gump | ▶ 6:24 |
| Joe Pantoliano | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 9 | Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons | Memento, The Matrix | ▶ 35:38 |
| Danny Trejo | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Shea Serrano | Machete, From Dusk Till Dawn, Predators | ▶ 54:39 |
| John Travolta | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 7 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | Pulp Fiction, Get Shorty, Saturday Night Fever | ▶ 40:39 |
| Snoop Dogg | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | Training Day | ▶ 28:29 |
| Tom Berenger | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Sean Fennessey, Bill Simmons | Platoon, Inception, The Big Chill | ▶ 32:52 |
| Tommy Lee Jones | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | The Fugitive, No Country for Old Men | ▶ 40:23 |
| Will Smith | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 6 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey | Men in Black, I Am Legend | ▶ 3:56 |
| Matt Damon | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 5 | Bill Simmons | Good Will Hunting, The Martian, The Departed | ▶ 11:46 |
Writers Referenced (5)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Malcolm X | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 17 | Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Shea Serrano | Malcolm X | ▶ 3:38 |
| Julie Siege | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 3 | Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan | ▶ 11:37 | |
| David Ayer | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 2 | Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan | End of Watch, Suicide Squad | ▶ 55:02 |
| Andy Greenwald | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | ▶ 1:04:55 | |
| Jim Leonard | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Sean Fennessey | ▶ 2:27 |
Cinematographers Referenced (1)
| Name | Links | Mentions | Mentioned by | Known For | First |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Grantland | IMDb ↗Lb ↗ | 1 | Bill Simmons | The Other Guys | ▶ 1:04:59 |