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‘True Lies’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

July 16, 2024 · True Lies (1994) · Action · Comedy · Thriller · 1:56:06 · ▶ Listen on Spotify

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Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Bill SimmonsTrue Lies is the best Bond movie of the past 40 years▶ 12:39
Van LathanThis is Cameron's finest directing work ever, better than Terminator 2, because of his versatility in directing multiple genres within one film▶ 7:40

Apex Mountain

Bill SimmonsArnold SchwarzeneggerTrue Lies is Arnold's acting Apex Mountain, his best performance as one of the great popcorn actors▶ 16:44
Chris RyanArnold SchwarzeneggerAgrees it's Arnold's best performance but notes it's not saying much given Arnold's limited acting range▶ 16:49
Van LathanArnold SchwarzeneggerTrue Lies over Total Recall because it asks Arnold to do more - charm, emotional range, and coolness▶ 17:11

Hall of Fame Plaque

Bill SimmonsThe truth serum scene with Arnold and Tia Carrere, including the fight scene where Arnold fights a hundred terrorists▶ 51:53
Van LathanJamie Lee Curtis's striptease scene - the metamorphosis where she pulls the dress, does lipstick, and gets out of the dress▶ 48:48

What's Aged the Best

Bill SimmonsArnold getting top billing in his contract and then Cameron calling to move Jamie Lee Curtis up in the credits, which Arnold agreed to▶ 1:04:43

Den of Thieves Benihana Award

Bill SimmonsEither what CR just said, the bridge, or the Marriott elevator▶ 1:05:47

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Chris RyanSimon's Chinese Restaurant▶ 1:06:35
Van LathanSimon's Chinese Restaurant scene (agrees with Chris)▶ 1:06:49

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsThe interrogation scene of Jamie Lee Curtis is too long (11 minutes)▶ 1:10:23
Chris RyanTia (the main villain/Aziz character played by Art Malik)▶ 1:07:07
Van LathanTia/Aziz (agrees with Chris Ryan about the main villain)▶ 1:07:25

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsSal Rubinek's overacting and Charlton Heston's bad performance▶ 1:15:17
Van LathanLoose-ass suits - the baggy suits from the Arsenio era▶ 1:14:54

Is There a Better Title?

Bill SimmonsNo, True Lies is an awesome title▶ 1:16:34

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsJodie FosterDiscussed Jodie Foster rumor for Helen role (doesn't believe it), Arnold's initial opposition to Jamie Lee Curtis, and Tom Arnold's audition story▶ 1:20:50
Chris RyanMentioned confusion between Blue Steel and Blue Thunder, participated in general discussion without specific casting picks▶ 1:21:51
Van LathanParticipated in discussion about Blue Steel and other movies but didn't offer specific casting alternatives▶ 1:22:33

Dion Waiters Award

Bill SimmonsBill PaxtonAgreed this is one of the easiest selections of all time, quoted Simon's lines about lying to get women and having 'a little dick'▶ 1:25:26
Chris RyanBill PaxtonSaid it's so good it's in conversation for changing the name of the award to 'The Simon from True Lies Award', mentioned the fantasy punch scene▶ 1:25:28
Van LathanBill PaxtonSaid it's so good 'it's almost written for me', mentioned Simon with blood everywhere in the Corvette▶ 1:25:43

Picking Nits

Bill SimmonsArnold would be one of the most recognizable counterterrorism spies - he's not blending in anywhere. Also the scuba diving suit with dry tuxedo underneath is impossible▶ 1:38:55
Chris RyanWhat is Omega Sector's remit and authority? How can they call in Harrier strikes on American soil? Arnold can marshal the surveillance state to follow his wife - there should be a congressional inquiry▶ 1:37:11
Van LathanZero chance Jamie Lee Curtis doesn't recognize that it's Arnold - he's massive. That's my biggest nitpick. Also, after 17 years of marriage she wouldn't figure out he's a spy▶ 1:39:11

Is This Movie Better With

Bill SimmonsBill PaxtonLists the standard utility players and adds 'Simon Hudson' as the full name for the new addition▶ 1:44:51
Chris RyanBill PaxtonSays not better directed by JDB, but proposes adding Bill Paxton's Hudson character from Aliens to the utility player list▶ 1:45:03

Just One Oscar

Bill SimmonsJames CameronSpecial effects or Cameron (director)▶ 1:45:41

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Bill SimmonsIs not being able to do the tango a top ten thing you're jealous of? Yes, watching people tango makes you feel like they have the power of ten men▶ 1:46:06
Chris RyanTango jealousy only occurs when watching movies - never been in a real life situation that calls for tango▶ 1:46:19
Van LathanDid Harry ever have to sleep with another woman for a mission? Yes, but Bill thinks he did it for fun because Arnold is very horny▶ 1:48:02

Best Double Feature

Van LathanThe Bourne IdentityThe Borne Identity and Speed - calls True Lies the spiritual prequel to Mr. And Mrs. Smith▶ 1:48:40

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsEither 'you're a sick bitch if you steal the ice cube trays out of the freezer' or 'it's okay to lie to your spouse because it will all work out'▶ 1:50:52
Van LathanJust encourage your wife's freak - let her be free and don't hold her back▶ 1:51:05

Who Won the Movie

Movies Referenced (74)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Juno (2007)IMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 35:49
Skyfall (2012)IMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 14:42
Total Recall (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗8Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 17:28
The Rock (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 18:05
Casino Royale (2006)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Chris Ryan, Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 14:42
Cube (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 46:38
Titanic (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 4:40
Trading Places (1983)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Van Lathan, Bill Simmons▶ 31:35
Halloween (1978)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 31:35
Last Action Hero (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 10:31
Pretty Woman (1990)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 11:05
Twister (1996)IMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 8:36

Directors Referenced (7)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Iyi TubiIMDb ↗Lb ↗17Bill Simmons, Van LathanEx Machina, World War Z▶ 50:09
Oliver StoneIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Van LathanBorn on the Fourth of July, Platoon, JFK▶ 43:50
Ben AffleckIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill SimmonsArgo, Gone Girl, The Town▶ 24:19
Jim RomeIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanThe Longest Yard, Space Jam▶ 1:18:43
Michael BayIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Chris RyanArmageddon▶ 19:13
Michael MannIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsThe Insider, Collateral, The Last of the Mohicans▶ 42:25
Woody AllenIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsAnnie Hall▶ 30:38

Actors Referenced (86)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
White LiesIMDb ↗Lb ↗34Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan▶ 2:34
Arnold SchwarzeneggerIMDb ↗Lb ↗19Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, Bill SimmonsTerminator 2: Judgment Day, The Terminator▶ 3:03
Tom ArnoldIMDb ↗Lb ↗18Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris RyanTrue Lies▶ 7:32
Jamie LeeIMDb ↗Lb ↗17Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris RyanCold Mountain▶ 31:23
Bill PaxtonIMDb ↗Lb ↗15Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van LathanAliens, Apollo 13▶ 16:04
Jamie Lee CurtisIMDb ↗Lb ↗12Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris RyanTrue Lies, Everything Everywhere All at Once▶ 3:05
Gene HackmanIMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van LathanThe French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, Unforgiven▶ 1:24:14
Eli ManningIMDb ↗Lb ↗8Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 33:11
Charlton HestonIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van LathanBen-Hur▶ 1:10:05
Tom CruiseIMDb ↗Lb ↗7Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, Chris RyanTop Gun, Minority Report▶ 19:06
Laura HarrierIMDb ↗Lb ↗6Chris Ryan▶ 5:32
Brett HundleyIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan▶ 34:49

Writers Referenced (6)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
James CameronIMDb ↗Lb ↗46Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van LathanAvatar, Aliens, Terminator 2: Judgment Day▶ 3:07
Jihad HojeilyIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Chris Ryan▶ 9:02
Andy GreenwaldIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 0:30
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Van Lathan▶ 28:50
Michael CiminoIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Van LathanThe Deer Hunter▶ 20:41
Julie SiegeIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Van Lathan▶ 1:09:11