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‘School Ties’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Mallory Rubin

August 8, 2022 · School Ties (1992) · Drama · 1:51:37

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Hall of Fame Plaque

Bill SimmonsAcknowledges the non-Jewish actors playing Jewish roles discussion but focuses more on the broader cultural impact of the film as an important anti-Semitism movie and its contribution to the teen movie canon▶ 9:06
Mallory RubinDiscusses non-Jews playing Jews Hall of Fame, mentioning Daniel Craig in Munich and Oscar Isaac in Moon Knight/Scenes from a Marriage as examples, with Brendan Fraser as David Green fitting this category▶ 6:43

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bill SimmonsMultiple scenes including the Smokey Joe Cafe scene, the first football game win against Winchester, and the Damon-Fraser dock conversation scene▶ 30:40
Mallory RubinAgrees with the Smokey Joe Cafe scene and considers the dock conversation scene as potentially the best scene of the movie, though not necessarily most rewatchable▶ 34:54

Apex Mountain

Mallory RubinEastern PromisesEastern Promises remains top spot for Viggo Mortensen, difficult to beat▶ 41:42

Picking Nits

Bill SimmonsEd Lauder as Brendan Fraser's dad not showing up to the St. Luke's game - should have gotten off work for his kid's biggest football game▶ 58:54
Mallory RubinFranklin Benson being 98 years old in 1955 (born 1875) and still alive when life expectancy was in the 60s▶ 58:02

Big Kahuna Burger Award

Bill SimmonsPossibly the shot they give Matt Damon, but expressed uncertainty about having a pick▶ 1:06:27
Mallory RubinMagoo's fruit in the 'excuse me, there's no salt on this table, I need salt for my fruit' sequence▶ 1:06:32

Butch's Girlfriend Award

Bill SimmonsThe French meltdown scene▶ 1:08:12

Ron Burgundy Flute Award

Bill SimmonsMcGiv's meltdown sequence - as soon as you know McGiv's about to meltdown, great time to go make some popcorn▶ 1:08:28
Mallory RubinThe Cleary car prank sequence - exactly two minutes long, feels like it's from a completely different movie▶ 1:08:41

What's Aged the Worst

Bill SimmonsThe poorly filmed football scenes, specifically citing the 120-yard throw in the first football game▶ 1:13:20
Mallory RubinHow they film the football scenes - stationary cameras, no sense of field position or downs, unrealistic gameplay▶ 1:12:08

Is There a Better Title?

Bill SimmonsKeep 'School Ties' - proposed 'Honor Code' and 'Star of David' as alternatives but concluded School Ties is still the best▶ 1:13:55
Mallory RubinKeep 'School Ties' - called it 'Pantheon iconic title' and 'flawless' with 'no notes'▶ 1:13:33

Teddy KGB Award

Bill SimmonsJohn McGiverMcGivern for his performance with the sunglasses and overcoat, calling it a concerted attempt to make him weird that doesn't work▶ 1:18:20

Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Bill SimmonsTwo related takes: 1) Charlie Dillon's cheating is okay - everyone takes liberties in high school, and 2) David Green shouldn't have gone after Sally since Charlie was in love with her and David already took his quarterback job▶ 1:20:50
Mallory RubinThe coward scene is not that good - it's too short, rushed, and contributes very little to the movie▶ 1:18:40

Casting What-Ifs

Bill SimmonsKyle ChandlerPresents casting alternatives from Entertainment Weekly oral history: Kyle Chandler, Matthew Perry, Noel Wiley auditioned for David Green; Chris O'Donnell was considered for Charlie Dillon but wanted a more likable role▶ 1:23:25
Mallory RubinKyle ChandlerKyle Chandler as David Green would be 'almost too much to bear' and 'a brain breaker' - expressing strong positive reaction to this casting what-if▶ 1:24:27

Overacting Award

Bill SimmonsJohn McGiverMcGiv▶ 1:25:19
Mallory RubinMichael HigginsSuggested Michael Higgins (History Professor in rapid fire quiz sequence)▶ 1:25:20

Dion Waiters Award

Bill SimmonsBen AffleckBen Affleck - doesn't have many lines (maybe eight), but stands out, gets shirtless▶ 1:26:49
Mallory RubinBen AffleckBen Affleck - agrees, specifically mentions the Smokey Joe's cafe scene wouldn't be the same without him shirtless▶ 1:27:03

Racehorse Name Award

Bill SimmonsSkip Steiner▶ 1:32:29
Mallory RubinCocos' sister▶ 1:32:34

Just One Oscar

Bill SimmonsMatt DamonDamon▶ 1:38:02
Mallory RubinMatt DamonDamon▶ 1:38:04

Best Double Feature

Bill SimmonsGood Will HuntingEndorses Good Will Hunting pairing - 'I think that's the best one'▶ 1:43:59
Mallory RubinLiberty HeightsLiberty Heights - calling it 'the other foundational Jewish movie that everybody fucking loves'▶ 1:42:41
Mallory RubinGood Will HuntingGood Will Hunting - considered Dead Poets Society but chose Good Will Hunting as a back-to-back pairing▶ 1:43:44

Coach Finstock Life Lesson

Bill SimmonsMaybe think about your own feelings about prejudice before you become prejudicial▶ 1:45:22
Mallory RubinUse the people who are trying to use you▶ 1:45:42

Who Won the Movie

Bill SimmonsBrendan FraserBrendan Fraser - argued he's never been more likable or better, and the movie doesn't work without his performance▶ 1:46:55

Movies Referenced (34)

Title (year)LinksMentionsMentioned byFirst
Good Will Hunting (1997)IMDb ↗Lb ↗9Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin▶ 2:53
Scent of a Woman (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗7Mallory Rubin, Bill Simmons▶ 11:45
Munich (2005)IMDb ↗Lb ↗6Mallory Rubin▶ 6:51
Batman (1989)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Mallory Rubin, Bill Simmons▶ 19:30
Eastern Promises (2007)IMDb ↗Lb ↗4Mallory Rubin, Bill Simmons▶ 41:39
Dazed and Confused (1993)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 1:26:34
Dead Poets Society (1989)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin▶ 5:39
Rushmore (1998)IMDb ↗Lb ↗3Mallory Rubin, Bill Simmons▶ 1:42:52
Identity (2003)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Mallory Rubin▶ 4:17
Set It Up (2018)IMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin▶ 40:44
American Graffiti (1973)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 5:11
Basic Instinct (1992)IMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill Simmons▶ 1:11:46

Directors Referenced (7)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Ben AffleckIMDb ↗Lb ↗19Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinArgo, Gone Girl, The Town▶ 2:39
Anson JewIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Mallory Rubin, Bill SimmonsWonder Woman▶ 40:26
George ClooneyIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Mallory Rubin, Bill SimmonsThe Ides of March, Michael Clayton▶ 22:36
Robert MandelIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Mallory Rubin, Bill SimmonsSchool Ties▶ 1:12:52
Walt FrasierIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 2:39
Sean PennIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsMystic River, 21 Grams, Dead Man Walking▶ 5:17
Woody AllenIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Mallory RubinAnnie Hall▶ 1:43:11

Actors Referenced (51)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Matt DamonIMDb ↗Lb ↗64Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinGood Will Hunting, The Martian, The Departed▶ 2:39
Brendan FraserIMDb ↗Lb ↗34Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinThe Mummy, Crash▶ 2:12
Chris O'DonnellIMDb ↗Lb ↗29Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinScent of a Woman▶ 2:49
Cole HauserIMDb ↗Lb ↗10Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinDazed and Confused, Good Will Hunting▶ 2:57
Robin WilliamsIMDb ↗Lb ↗5Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinMrs. Doubtfire▶ 5:41
Kyle ChandlerIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinArgo, Manchester by the Sea, Super 8▶ 1:23:42
MagooIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Mallory Rubin, Bill Simmons▶ 43:41
Robert Sean LeonardIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Mallory RubinDead Poets Society, The Age of Innocence▶ 26:54
Reese WitherspoonIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Mallory RubinWalk the Line, Legally Blonde▶ 46:32
The GameIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Mallory Rubin, Bill SimmonsStreet Kings, The A-Team, Coach Carter▶ 35:51
Anthony RappIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons, Mallory RubinDazed and Confused, A Beautiful Mind▶ 43:45
Antonio GatesIMDb ↗Lb ↗2Bill Simmons▶ 1:50:34

Writers Referenced (4)

NameLinksMentionsMentioned byKnown ForFirst
Dick WolfIMDb ↗Lb ↗4Mallory Rubin, Bill Simmons▶ 3:34
Roger EbertIMDb ↗Lb ↗3Bill Simmons▶ 27:20
Jon FavreauIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Bill SimmonsChef, Iron Man, Swingers▶ 26:34
Thorne SmithIMDb ↗Lb ↗1Mallory Rubin▶ 1:27:35